Re: OT: air india crash

Trouble is that it isnt going to work at night or in the worst weather

yes

nope

It does when flying too and did in this case

Because it deploys when plane is flying when the fuel switches are set to cut off so there is enough power to fly the 787 and communicate etc

You are incredibly certain with your comments, driven by arrogance rather than knowledge presumably.

It is possible that each pilot turned one engine off, the reality is we will know nothing until we see the full, or an interim, report.

You don't get flameout on both engines at once without a bird strike or very bad fuel and there was no bird strike or bad fuel. One of the pilots turned both engines off

There is no checklist used in that situation at the altitude, its memory thing

That's actually a fact, not speculation

Bur the FAA found in 2019 that not all of them were installed properly and have just said that Air India never checked their's

Nope, no reason to use those switches in flight without an engine fire etc and they are always use to shut the engines down at after docking do the pilots just aware of the correct way they are use given that they must have used them countless times before and there are only two positions for those switches

There are only two of them

And the prelimary report would have said that if that was the case

Yep

Yep, that would certainly help in this situation

Certainly the 787 does

Yep

Keep up. The question was why you would want to put the switchws to cut off whilst in flight.

Do some research. Pilots that flying aircraft of the same type of aircraft have answered this question and like most (all) procedures there is a check sheet/procedure associated with flame outs. Turning off the fuel and turning it back on can automatically initiate an engine restart.

What makes you think that it was an EU project?

Having just put the butter in the cupboard and the marmite in the fridge, I can sympathise with the idea that it was done UNintentionally by one of the pilots.

I would say it does not.

The first officer was pilot flying. He is fully concentrated on taking the plane off and would not be able to physically move the switches whilst doing so, and the pilot who was flying made every attempt to restart the engines and climb out.

The decision as to who is pilot flying is ultimately the captains.

The captain had the opportunity. The first officer did not.

I don't see why people are so resistant to the idea that 'the pilots did it' when its happened before. Whereas two entirely independent fuel cutoff switches have never BOTH failed SIMULTANEOUSLY. It may be a possibility, but the odds are extremely long.

We will discover that the captain had gambling debts, his wife was about to leave him and he had been named in a case of paedophilia.

So, they provided around £40m right at the outset.

And indeed there is evidence that one engine was producing some thrust at impact.

Beep, please wait while Windows for Aircraft updates itself....

The point is and was that the Europhiliac establishment was in charge of the damned thing. It fits into European transport plans, but is practically meaningless in UK terms