Re: OT: air india crash

It's all bigger and better in Australia, isn't it? Including the authoritarianism. I can remember when Australians were known for their suspicion of authorities.

In article snipped-for-privacy@candehope.me.uk>, charles snipped-for-privacy@candehope.me.uk> scribeth thus

No, entirely passive devices their just simple switches not relays or remote activated devices..

The authoritys never said anything of the sort

In article snipped-for-privacy@candehope.me.uk>, charles snipped-for-privacy@candehope.me.uk> scribeth thus

Not as such, heres the switch in question download the data sheet that tells you all about it their quite well priced being Mil spec!...

There are no defamation laws in India

They are actually attempting to protect their arses given that Air India knew he had mental issues and did nothing about that.

Nope, it is certain who said what because they can be identified by their voices on the CVR

Nope

You clowns have stupid hate speech laws. We aren't that stupid

We still are

Those switches do control relays but it is impossible for both to fail the same way within 1 second, let alone be able to have the failure reversed only a few more seconds later and the FDR does show the use of the switches

Although they do drive relays to perform their multiple functions. But no software involved at all.

Actually THIS is the switch in question. It probably costs thousands as it will be made to aviation standards.

It forms part of the whole throttle sub assembly and is not normally changed as a separate item

They normally use the jump seat. My theory is neither of the pilots would open its bag of complimentary peanuts and it leaned over with its trunk and flipped the switches out of spite.

Brian

I think its Nugget, the Spirit Airlines pet squirrel, He has form.

How do you know that operate further relays?, they could control other devices and input circuits.

Unless you have access to the 787 series service manuals;?...

Well mil spec, thats how they justify the £1,400 odd price!...

It doesn't say that on the spec sheet..

Snigger.

Because the information is online, and a person who regularly services them made a video on you tube outlining how the circuits work

Basically yes, the guy on You tube showed a circuit diagram and all the people who fly and service these things have popped up to explain how they work.

In order to limit idle speculation.

There is no spec sheet. What you posted a link to is not the part in question The part in question have I think a cross on top of the plastic that is translucent with a red light behind it, that presumably shows as a red cross when the fuel is on. Or off. I am not clear on that as I wasn't interested enough to find out.

That's what it says in the utube video from the 787 maintenance fella at about 15 mins that the turnip posted a link too, with a full wiring diagram of the fuel switches and fuel pumps etc.

And they are pretty big high pressure pumps, you wouldnt switch those high pressure fuel pumps using little switches like that in the cockpit on a heavy like that.

The maintenance bloke who posted the video does and showed the relevant part of that.

Oh the irony, the delicious irony :-)

Hardly dear.

Actually, I made a mistake. This red herring has been introduced deliberately by the Indian pilots union, who demand that they be included in the investigation as they claim there is 'bias against the pilots'

Allegedly one member of the team nearly walked out die to the political pressure being applied to blame anyone but the Indian pilot.

You are simply caught up in that pressure.

Full waffle here