Fredxx snipped-for-privacy@nospam.co.uk> wrote
>> The Natural Philosopher wrote
>>> tim... wrote
>>>> Dave Plowman (News) snipped-for-privacy@davenoise.co.uk> wrote
>>>>> JNugent <jennings& snipped-for-privacy@fastmail.fm wrote
>
>>>>>> I want 1950s / early 1960s style neutrality in broadcast media. >>>>>
>>>>> You must be incredibly old if you took an interest in such things >>>>> then.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think that people (normal people) did take an interest in it
>>>> at the time, because it as seen as normal
>>>>
>>>> perhaps people just hanker back to that normality
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I think we should be careful.
>>>
>>> Looking at today's generation's easy acceptance of green bullshit as
>>> fact, I think back to my youth and realise that there was much then
>>> that I didn't question either. My parents lived through The War, as
>>> we understood it to be spelled...and were comfortable with the fact
>>> that of course the BBC wasn't telling the whole truth, but was part
>>> of the war effort churning out wartime propaganda.
>>>
>>> What has changed is the complete takeover of the media from a centre
>>> right position to a more or less Marxist position, although it's
>>> couched as benevolent socialism.
>>>
>>> This is the final nail in the coffin from what was a mildly
>>> benevolent elite of educated and experienced people to an new elite
>>> of indoctrinated and classist people that literally hates the plebs
>>> and popular culture and wants an EU style dirigiste government that
>>> dictates cultural norms as well as the law.
>>>
>>> In essence where you used to get your morality from the Church, and
>>> it was nothing to do with the Law, now you get it from left wing
>>> pressure groups via the Guardian and the BBC and the push is to
>>> encapsulate it in law.
>>>
>>> Hate crime? since when has it been a crime to hate? Why is it never
>>> the hate filled Left that get prosecuted for it? When Maggie died
>>> the cool thing was to revel in hatred of a politician.
>>>
>>> The BBC selects what it considers 'important' - wall to wall woke
>>> social issues these days - and tells us what we *ought* to be
>>> thinking about it.
>>>
>>> Sadly GB news is selecting those same issues although it is at least
>>> presenting them in a far more balanced way.
>>>
>>> The real challenge is to select and promote other issues - let's have
>>> a real critique on climate change or renewable energy, perhaps >>>
>>> At least Nigel Farage started off by saying 'look, this is what is
>>> happening with illegal immigration, why are we sweeping this under >>> the carpet?'
>>>
>>> A story that no one else is featuring.
>>
>> Quite, no on is addressing the instability and violence in countries
>> where many are fleeing from,
>
> Because it isn't possible to address that.
We shouldn't have poured arms into countries like Libya and Syria. We shouldn't have decimated Iraq and created ISIS.
> and our hand in creating and perpetuating this instability.
>
> Bit late now with Israel and Syria etc and not
> even possible with Afghanistan and Iraq.
It is too late. We should have left these countries alone in the first place.