Plywood

Dec 15, 2008 10 Replies

I am building some external doors, and on a US forum was advised that in US they have a product that is Marine Ply with vertical grooves .... so looks as aesthetically pleasing as T&G ... but has dimensional stability of ply.



In US this is known as T-111 sheet. Or T-111 siding



Initially it had a rough-sawn, textured surface with vertical grooves milled every 4 or 8 inches. Thickness ranged from 3/8 inch to 3/4 inch. Usually fabricated from Douglas fir, but also in redwood.


Anybody know of an equivalent product in UK ?


Having looked for it in the past I do not believe there is any such thing readily available here in the UK.

[For those unfamiliar, if you Google "T111 siding" and select images you'll get the general idea.]

In the Colonies it typically comes in 8' x 4' sheets and is relatively inexpensive.

Just the job for an "instant shed". It's good stuff.

D

Siding is (or was) used for building masses of cheap s***ty houses over there in a way it isn't over here. Now often PVC instead - lovely.

"Marine ply" made with Doug Fir - hmmm. Not going to get a Lloyds Certificate for that one.

Why not get some WBP ply (what they really mean) and run a router with a beading bit in it up it a few times?

I did think of buying some Birch Marine Ply and doing that .....

To make grooves visible would assume something like 3mm wide, using a standard 45 degree grooving router bit that would result in a groove

1.5mm deep .... Would this compromise the stability of the face ply, and cause premature failure ?

.... Marine Ply is expensive so would need to have a good idea of longevity before doing this. Anybody any idea ?

This link will give a list of suppliers of sheet material

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It may be worth chatting to Robbins. In their catalgue they have something which may be similar (bottom right of page 1)

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An alternative option would be to mill in longitudinal grooves into Marine Ply sheet to simulate t&g ..... anybody done this ? ... is this practical without compromising the waterproof properties of the sheet. It would be stained finish.

AIUI the waterproof comes from the glue/adhesive that bonds the sheets together.

Dave

I've done similar with a router, v groove bit & a straightedge, but only on smaller lengths e.g.2'. It looks pretty good as long as you keep the groove dead straight.

You will need to do a bit of sanding afterwards & depending on the ply you might reveal a different colour 'ply' at the base of the groove.

was this paint finish or stain ? ........ just wondering doing this would make board fail early .... I would in effect be creating 'end grain' with these grooves ... and water on end grain often delaminates the ply. I only need to rout wide & deep enough to crate the effect of planks .. almost just a shadow line.

Finish was oil. The application was indoor only.

I guess you could rout down to a ply parrallel to the top ply. Decent exterioe woodstain should be OK I guess.

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