For a large number of years I've cursed about the screws in MCBs, and the like, being made of cheese and not quite right for either pozi, philips or flat drivers. Last week I discovered plus-minus screwdrivers and bought one - it's a revelation. Suddenly the screws in MCBs are easy to tighten/loosen and the screwdriver doesn't slip and bu&&er-up the screw head. I wish I'd known this before so am posting here for those others with a similar unknown unknown.
"Plus-minus" screwdriver - a revelation!
Apr 07, 2024
Last reply: 2 years ago
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Also worth knowing the Japanese standard. They look for all the world like Philips ones, but you will definitely get the 'cheese effect' if you use a Philips driver for a Japanese standard screw!
I would say Pozidriv screws are now the norm. Less cam-out that Philips and so superior. I use them all the time.
Same here. But I also have a set of JIS screwdrivers for use when necessary.
I guess JIS was the type CD was talking about. In most instances a Pozidriv bit will fit a JIS screw. I thought the Japanese had moved on and generally adopted ISO 8764
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The Japanese, by the way, swear that their 'plus' screws are identical to Philips. But you won't even get a Philips driver into the head of a Japanese M2 screw.
Yes, I discovered those a while ago - from someone here, I think
aka "Modulo" screwdriver.
That's neat. I wonder if these have a 1/4" shank:
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Narrow enough to get into the MCB, but use a regular handle / 1/4" torque wrench / etc.
(they say 6mm shank, but not sure if that's really 6.35mm or something else. Of course they want you do use their handle system, but I don't)
Theo
Me too, but the week before you, updating my consumer unit with a new one - RCD's and double the nummber of ways. I just could not get the terminal screws properly tight, with any of the selection of 200 plus drivers I tried. I ended up researching the issue, and eventually realised I was supposed to use a special type, called 'modulo', bought a couple of sizes, and now the terms are satisfactorily tightened.
Wots an MCB?
TW
Miniature Circuit Breaker, the things inside your Consumer Unit.
ok, ta. Tim W
That is a revelation. As I've just re-wired a CU, I must say finding the right screwdriver bit was a bit hit and miss. Never really found a good one for the MCBs. So, would this be a good buy?
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Yep, especially cheap, but it doesn't state the size, they come in sizes. Amazon sell them in pairs, two useful sizes.
NICEIC tell me that it's a Z2 x 100 mm. Klauke KL130PM2IS VDE Screwdriver Plus/Minus, Z2
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