"modern cars are designed to throw things they hit straight up over the bonnet curve".
And into the windscreen/roof.
Roe deer are about 2' at the shoulder, that's above the leading bonnet line on most cars and the 25 odd kg of animal is the shovelled up the bonnet into the windscreen.
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Andy Burns
Darwin claims another couple
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Grimly Curmudgeon
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember tony sayer saying something like:
Was about ten at the time, so a bit of both :) Curious minds and all that.
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Andrew Gabriel
The deer I see on the road are much taller that that, although I can't tell you what type they are -- the adults stand taller than a car, although not an SUV, providing you exclude the antlers.
I've had the small ones you describe in the garden though (assumed they were Muntjacs, but could be wrong), but they're very different from the ones I drive past in the woods.
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The Natural Philosopher
He said 'shoulder line' Not 'erect head height'
Which is more like about 4 foot.At a stretch, they can browse up to=20 about head height. I've seen little deer damage above that anyway.
Red deer are bigger, and fallow a bit smaller. There are very few wild=20 Red deer in England..mostly Scotland. Roe deer are increasing=20 exponentially and are becoming a pest, and the fallow too, though not in =
such numbers.
Muntjacs look like a cross between a dog and a wallaby. All rear end and =
no front legs at all. About the same size as a medium dog. Ugly things.=20 Look best in stews.
Wiki "The Roe Deer is a relatively small deer, with a body length of 95-135=20 cm (3.1 - 4.4 ft), a shoulder height of 65-75 cm (2.1 - 2.5 ft), and a=20 weight of 15-30 kg (33-66 lb)."
"The Fallow Deer (Dama dama) is a ruminant mammal belonging to the=20 family Cervidae.
The male is a buck, the female is a doe, and the young a fawn. Bucks are =
140-160 cm long and 90-100 cm shoulder height, and 60-85 kg in weight;=20 does are 130-150 cm long and 75-85 cm shoulder height, and 30-50 kg in=20 weight. "
Oh. It appears that fallow deer are bigger than roe? Not round here they =
aint, but the antlers are much more impressive.
Hmm. Not sure there data on Muntjak is any more accurate. They have them =
the same size as roe deer..
Compare and contrast with those pictires of MOOSE strikes
"On average, an adult moose stands 1.8--2.1 m (6--7 ft) high at the=20 shoulder[6]. Males weigh 380--720 kg (850--1580 pounds) and females weigh= =20
270--360 kg (600--800 pounds).[7] The largest of all is the Alaskan=20 subspecies (A. a. gigas), which can stand over 2.1 m (7 ft) at the=20 shoulder, has a span across the antlers of 1.8 m (6 ft) and averages=20
634.5 kg (1,396 lbs) in males and 478 kg (1,052 lbs) in females.[8]=20 Typically, however, the antlers of a mature specimen are between 1.2 m=20 (3.9 ft) and 1.5 m (4.9 ft). The largest confirmed size for this species =
was a bull shot at the Yukon River in September 1897 weighing 820 kg=20 (1,800 lb) and was 233 cm (92 in) tall at the shoulder.[9] The Moose of=20 Alaska matches the extinct Irish Elk as the largest deer of all=20 time.[10] Behind only the bisons, the Moose is the second largest land=20 animal in both North America and Europe."
Like a moose is half a ton and the mass is situated CG wise ABOVE the=20 bonnet line. VERY nasty.
Whereas a Roe or Fallow CG wise is probably at or around the bonnet=20 line. And up to a hundred times less mass.
Of course all small deer progress in leaps and bounds, so if you are=20 unlucky enough to hit one in full bound, its a lot higher up.
Even the biggest English deer is not much heavier than an adolescent of=20 child, and we all know European safety standards mean you are safe=20 hitting these at quite high speeds.;-)
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tony sayer
In article , Grimly Curmudgeon scribeth thus
Well it was just pennies on the line for us under steamers, but there were some trees near the lines and on one of them we'd climb and jump from branch to branch some 50-60 feet above ground level and got away with it !..
Yoof of today got no bottle at all!, why they just sit inside playin away on their computers and x-box's and wii's !....
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sdhull
We used to make knives from 6inch nails, a couple of hundred tons of steam locomotive made them so flat you just needed to file an edge to get a sharp blade. We used to jump onto the guards van at rear and climb electricity pylons.
Another scary dare was to lie in a tunnel (between the tunnel wall and track) when the steam engine came thundering through.
Mad yoofs indeed.
Stephen.
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The Medway Handyman
We used to eat After Eight Mints at 7 o'clock so there.
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PeterC
GMT or BST?
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Grimly Curmudgeon
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "The Medway Handyman" saying something like:
No wonder the country's gone to the dogs!
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Grimly Curmudgeon
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember The Natural Philosopher saying something like:
Indeed.
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Jules
Genius :)
I always used to wonder what happened after you ate more than eight of them - the box didn't tell you.
Can't get 'em this side of the Atlantic (at least not locally, anyway) :-(
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The Medway Handyman
cursors & the offer of a cheap i phone.
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ARWadsworth
Try
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you can win Esther Ranstzen or a good look a like.
Adam
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The Medway Handyman
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Grimly Curmudgeon
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "The Medway Handyman" saying something like:
Something's up then. I've just checked the download and it's perfectly fine. Whatever, try this...
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Jules
airbags, huh?
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Doctor Drivel
Fantastic Maxie! Did you join in and jump on? I'm sure you did. What a man!
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Grimly Curmudgeon
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember "Fredxx" saying something like:
What a load of c*ck. Nowhere is it illegal to watch a vid of kids playing, providing you aren't caught having a ham shank during it.
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Grimly Curmudgeon
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Jules saying something like:
Main problem with the Anarchist's Cookbook was it contained a lot of erroneous, and some downright dangerous drivel as well as *some* useful information, but even the useful stuff wasn't all that, iyswim.
I got the impression the latter-day AC was written by a pair of fourth formers.
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