OT: Windows 8

Got the new laptop which came with Windows 8.
Avoid this like the black death. It was clearly designed by a retarded gerbil and is virtually unusable.
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David Lang wrote:

Spend £3.25 on Start8, 30 day evaluation available ...
<http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/
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On 28/05/15 22:50, Andy Burns wrote:

spend 0p on Linux Mint and erase the MsMalware immediately
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Classic shell works, but is not totally good for blind users. Brian
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On 28/05/2015 22:50, Andy Burns wrote:

http://www.classicshell.net/ is free and win10 will be out in a few months.
Win 8.1 is actually better than the previous versions and 10 is much better (so far).
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It's very usable once you get used to it.
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On 28/05/2015 22:50, Simon263 wrote:

On a small screen laptop with a touch screen - perhaps. On a desktop with mouse and KB it needs work.
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It works fine with a mouse and keyboard when you get used to it and just type the name of what you want into the text box. That has worked fine ever since 7 too.
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On 28/05/2015 23:57, Simon263 wrote:

Spread over a couple of 24" monitors a trip to the "start screen" is like a voyage into toy town. Once the entire "metro" interface is banished it becomes a little more realistic IMHO. The charms bar also works badly on multi screen setups.
Forcing the metro / modern apps to run full screen also renders them useless. (if the reduced functionality alone did not do that)
Still if you like it, go for it, it just does not work for me.
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Nope, and that is my config.
Once the entire "metro" interface is

Don’t need to banish it, I launch and select the app I want to use from the quicklaunch toolbar just like I do with 7 and only ever use the text box for the stuff I don’t use often enough to have pinned to the QL toolbar.
The charms bar also

Works fine here.

Like hell it does, that's how I use them.

Doesn’t do that either.

Its completely trivial to use the Win7 UI if you don’t like it.
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On 29/05/2015 09:32, Simon263 wrote:

its what I do...
Now if you can work out a way to make the networks gadget work properly, please tell!
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On 29/05/2015 10:50, John Rumm wrote:

What do you want it to do?
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On 29/05/2015 19:45, dennis@home wrote:

For example, you create a new network connection (a VPN say) and then go to make it "connect" for the first time. It will prompt for the username and password. Now in Win 7 this all happens in normal windows gadgets and controls, so you can for example go to another window select and copy the username, then paste it in, then repeat for the password. You can't do that with the win 8 version - you could have the username ready in the paste buffer, paste that in, but when you go to select the password from elsewhere, it simply consumes the first click outside of the slide in control and causes it to abandon the credential entry session and slide the panel closed.
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On 30/05/2015 01:27, John Rumm wrote:

On mine I open control panel, networking and select make a new connection. Select VPN, enter the credentials in the desktop window and away you go. I dont see any charms bar doing it.
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On 30/05/2015 13:08, dennis@home wrote:

That lets you specify the destination address and the name of the connection - it does not let you fill in the password or user name - it asks for those the first time you try to connect (on mine anyway).
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On 29/05/2015 09:19, John Rumm wrote:

So carry on using the desktop apps you were using.
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On 29/05/2015 19:43, dennis@home wrote:

Indeed, I do. Which means you have to spend a certain amount of time overriding all the default handlers that like to throw you out to a toy town one though.
A number of times I have had to rescue someone who has for example tried to open a PDF, got the bundled toy town reader, but then not been able to get back to the desktop after.
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On 28/05/2015 23:35, John Rumm wrote:

Its virtually the same as win 7 on the desktop once you have classic shell installed. It does perform better than win 7.
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On 29/05/2015 19:41, dennis@home wrote:

I would largely agree - hence why I posted the link to classic shell at the start of this discussion.
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On 28/05/2015 22:50, Simon263 wrote:

By which time it will have been upgraded :-)
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