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I'm pretty certain there is. I notice the most popular choice with two core leads is a clamped on fused adaptor for a Europlug so the end can be seen poking out through the normal lead hole. Some are screwed on, but most seem to be fit once and forget it. Sony seem to use those a lot. Brian
I've had on travel chargers for AA/AAA batteries. Useful but (i) I don't think they are permitted under the Regs for anything with a flex or cable and (ii) the ones I've had weren't robust enough to stand up to typical domestic use by typical UK users (including the "pull it out by flex" brigade). But I am very willing to believe Blackberry provide superior, more robust kit.
Part II of the Regs applies (oversimplifying) only to appliances with a flexible cable/cord.
I looked at their site with much interest some time ago. I since became aware that there have been a few deaths which would have been avoided by using these, and none caused by these, so I don't have much sympathy with their campaign anymore.
In article , alamaison writes
Yes 3 pin, my mistook.
I don't see why we even have the UK shaver plug any more. Just supply shavers, toothbrushes etc with a 2 pin Euro plug which will fit in a UK shaver socket or a shaver adapter but can also be used when you go overseas. Also means the manufacturer doesn't need to supply different plugs for different markets, keeping the cost down.
The 3-pin round pin BS 546 plugs/sockets are still regs-compliant.
The 2A and 5A versions are often used for switched lighting, and the 15A version for stage lighting. The 30A version vanished when BS 4343/IEC 60309 connectors became popular.
The BB charger has a cable on the LV side ... It's a wallwart with the aforementioned slide-on fronts. Sadly, it appears I've lost the adaptors which is going to be irritating the next time I go the USA.
I was trying to be brief. I also thought it might be assumed that the flex/cable in question was "mains carrying" which needed the protection of BS 1363 else a lot of other kit would be caught - and eg USB cables in the UK could become a right pain!
The actual provision in question is:
"Appliances to which Part II applies
11.-(1) Subject to paragraph (2) below, this Part applies to any appliance which-(a) is designed to operate at a voltage of not less than 200 volts; and
(b) is designed to operate at a maximum rated input of not more than
13 amperes; and(c) is either-
(i) equipment which is fitted with a flexible cable or cord, is designed to be connected to a socket conforming to BS 1363 by means of that flexible cable or cord and a plug and is ordinarily intended to be so connected directly without the use of a cable connector; or
(ii) a flexible cable or cord which is connected to a portable socket or portable sockets and is designed to be connected to a socket conforming to BS 1363 by means of a plug; or
(iii) a flexible cable or cord which is designed to be connected to electrical equipment by means of an appliance coupler and to connect that electrical equipment to a socket conforming to BS 1363 by means of a plug; or
(iv) a flexible cable or cord which is designed to be connected by means of a cable connector to a flexible cable or cord fitted to electrical equipment, and which is intended to connect that electrical equipment to a socket conforming to BS 1363 by means of a plug; and
(d) is ordinarily intended for domestic use.
(2) This Part does not apply to any appliance specified in Schedule 3 to these Regulations."
But what about _existing_ shavers etc?
The fuse is merely to protect the lead.
No lead - no need for a fuse!
The 3-pin ones are regs-compliant. It's the 2-pin ones that are only still complaint as a shaver socket.
not really true, the fusing requirements for lead and appliance are just different. Wallwarts often have a bare wire link fuse (in old ones) or a thermal fuse, or an enclosed fuse somewhere. None are meant to be repairable.
NT
Compared to a schuko, there is not actually much in it size wise (although the BS1362 plug is much better at hurting your foot when left laying on a floor ;-)
Existing shavers will also fit in existing sockets....
Could you give more detail please?
Most of the mobile makers do similar now... My ericsony has a similar arrangement, with small wallwart and a choice of main plug sides. The LV side being just a USB A socket rather than a captive lead.
Have you any details of the ones where you think they may have helped?
One minute they were there, the next they'd gone! (No longer stocked)
But, for a few coppers more (49p ea. for 10+)you can have
... or for a couple of coppers more - again!- (57p ea. for 10+) you can have black ones!
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