OT: The NI border and the vaccine fuss

Is what the EU attempted to do and then rapidly changed its mind over moving vaccines into NI, different in principle to what BoJo was proposing in December with his 'Internal Market' bill but never carried through?

Reply to
Chris Hogg
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Could have just been a negotiating proposal. As I recall, talks went on and a way round was found, so the idea was dropped. Mind you, from what I read in the papers, there are real issues importing stuff into NI for NI use, at the minute. But I don't know more than that.

Reply to
Tim Streater

All sorts of odd things. Including flour.

Reply to
Dave Plowman (News

Who knows, it was so confusing I doubt he understood it himself. It was a bit of psychology I think to try to get some traction on the slug like EU decision making machine. If the world was ending the news would go out three months later. Brian

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Brian Gaff (Sofa

If the world was ending in one months time the news media would run on speculation from "experts" for 3 months.

Reply to
alan_m

No.

The EU tried to enable Article 16 of the NI protocol, which was a heavy handed attempt to prevent the UK from importing Covid 19 vaccines produced in the EU.

The expression 'shooting oneself in the foot' springs to mind.

Reply to
Jack Harry Teesdale

It was the EU backed by the BBC that was doing it of course. And it was designed not to smooth things, but to make things very difficult. So it was 'only what we deserved'

God those Eurocrats are petty, vindictive, and, it seems, murderous swine.

No wonder Blair is for them...

Reply to
The Natural Philosopher

If you listen to supermarket ads on the radio, they are now saying 'May vary in Northern Ireland'.

Reply to
Scott

I know that there are big problems at the moment, but ads that have been run nationally have often stated variations for NI for many years.

Reply to
Steve Walker

And just HTF could it do that?

It could, however, attempt to stop any exports it wants to. Or indeed imports to it.

If only BoJo saw the error of his ways as quickly as the EU did in this occasion. Rather than waiting until it is getting on for too late.

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Dave Plowman (News

It's all Project Fear, of course. None of it is actually happening.

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Dave Plowman (News

I only found out today that many of the NI goods problems are being caused because huge numbers of items that should be exempted are not, as the list of goods that need to be controlled has not been prepared due to a dispute between the negotiators.

So yes, it is caused by Brexit, but is only such a problem because that list has not been agreed and signed off.

Reply to
Steve Walker

1/. Says who? 2/. If true, only to be expected when bureaucrats issue edicts. They never consider on the ground real issues. 3/. And it is entirely in the EUs interest NOT to issue clear guidelines in order to create artificial shortages and diss Brexit.

I am amazed at the cognitive dissonance that is still maintaining that the EU are nice chaps and better at running things and are our friends.

Reply to
The Natural Philosopher

The EU *does* have the power to prevent EU producers from exporting to the UK under the provisions of Article 16.

Reply to
Jack Harry Teesdale

Does make you wonder what they've been doing the past 4 years. Other than the Tory party fighting themselves.

Reply to
Dave Plowman (News

Replying to yourself? Or just a problem reading and understanding in general?

Reply to
Dave Plowman (News

There also seem to be intimidation of "border inspectors" by the unionist paramilitary as a result of NI having different rules to the rest of the UK. These inspectors are no longer at work.

Reply to
alan_m

Certainly not the right response, but maybe understandable when the GB/NI internal UK trade is being badly affected by unnecessary restrictions on goods that are not supposed to be restricted.

Reply to
Steve Walker

No, just aproblem understanding your verbose rambling.

Reply to
Jack Harry Teesdale

Says the one who thinks a country can prevent another from importing. Short of operating some sort of blockade.

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Dave Plowman (News

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