OT: Smart Meter fiasco

Dec 12, 2019 Last reply: 6 years ago 11 Replies
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Monday we finally got our smart meter installed, should have been Friday bu t despite Scottish Power reminding me with texts every day for a week to be in for the install they never told the installers they were due on Friday. After getting onto Amey their installer I managed to get an appointment fo r the following Monday after initially being offered 31st December as the n ext available appointment!



This morning had to phone Scottish Power because the In Home Display (IHD) appears faulty despite being on constant charge the battery shows no sign o f charging and the display only stays on for a few minutes before the scree n shuts down so instead of getting a constant readout you have to switch on every time wait for it to communicate with the smart meter before download ing any data. As with many things these days it does it does not come with any instructions you are directed to go online for them only problem is the only instructions are those for a previous model! So I asked the Customer Services Advisor to replace the IHD, first he suggests change the batterie s, I point out they are rechargeables and the unit is a sealed affair with no access panel for the batteries and there are only two screws hidden behi nd the stand one of which is painted with anti-tamper paint both seem part of the case fixings. I ask him to send out a replacement, they cannot do th at as they have run out of IHDs and even new customers are not getting one with their install! I ask when will more become available the reply is not till next year and they do not have a date for when new stock will be avail able! So much for being able get an instant picture of my power usage, he s uggested you can always go online and get the usage data but I could do tha t before without a smart meter!



Mind you Scottish Power are not the only utility supplier I have had proble ms with, Northern Gas Networks was the next. We are currently in the proces s of installing a new kitchen and as you may have gathered from previous th reads this has involved demolishing a pantry moving and replacing a CU a to tal kitchen rewire as well as moving meters about. So I am trying to get al l these things put right whilst there is still easy access to everything. S o the next issue is the gas stop c*ck whose operating lever is tight agains t the wall and has been awkward to use even with reasonable access and will be much more awkward once access is through a smaller base unit. The solut ion is quite simple, rotate the valve through 180 deg. Except that the supp ly pipe to the boiler from the meter will prevent the valve opening the ful l 90deg. I ask Scottish Power will the smart meter installers do any altera tions to the pipe work? The answer is all they do is replace the gas meter and reconnect as before get onto your NDO for anything to do with the suppl y pipe.



Along comes the Northern Gas Networks inspector. The valve needs rotating a nd he can see the problem with the supply pipe. The first suggestion is we will move the valve and meter outside into a wall hung box and reconnect th rough the existing hole in the wall to the internal supply pipe. Great thin ks I except it is not that simple it is going to require a hole digging bec ause they have to run plastic pipe up to the meter now. SWAMBO went ballist ic understandably since we had only forked out £2000 the year before f or a new drive and his proposal meant disturbing the top end at least and p ossibly a trench down the full length. What amazed me was that he had no re cord if the underground part of the supply pipe was already plastic. He cou ld tell by the the type of metal pipe emerging at neighbouring properties t hat the underground pipe work was plastic and suspected ours was too but co uld not be definite. So back inside can you simply rotate the valve leaving the meter where it is and divert the internal supply pipe to allow full mo vement of the lever. The answer is the valve can be moved but I will have t o arrange my own Gas Safe plumber with permissions to do meter work to rero ute the pipe! What I do not understand is if they moved the meter out they would reconnect the internal supply pipe but making it easy to access the v alve lever is no. I am sure when I filled in the online job request it ment ioned they would reconnect any internal supply pipe up to 60cm as a result of any meter movement and depending on how neat they did the job that is th e maximum required. In the end he went back to his office to raise a job or der to have the valve rotated and I would be left with organising a plumber to do the rest.



As you can gather I am not a happy bunny but at least I got it off my t*ts for now and it is rant over! I just cannot believe what is patently a simpl e job can be made so complicated it seems like a throwback to the 60/70s wh en we used to have those ?who turned the tap? disputes.



Richard


and how on earth can you get "live" updates of your usage without a smart meter, online or otherwise?

tim

We blind have been trying to get the talking terminals for several years. They were designed and made, then they had to alter the meters spo all that work was wasted, so we were mid last summer, not wwe cannot get them yet as the demand is high. I was told they were in and being tested by EDF and I think II posted here that I had thus agreed to have a smart meter. Time has passed and nothing has happened yet. I guess you might find they have some of the talking ones, maybe they could lend you one of those? Brian

Are you sure its not the charger which is faulty? Brian

When SSE prompted me to get a smart meter I told them, no thanks. Don't want one. I send in regular meter readings via their web page and they're happy.

MM

Should have been a bit clearer but before we had the smart meter you could submit meter readings as often as you want and the site reports usage and costs, not exactly live but the next best thing and from my understanding of the conversation I had basically that is back to what I am going to have to do until they replace the IHD. Monitoring the usage now requires more effort compared to the convenience of a quick glance at the display.

Brian I have been too busy to check out the charger but will give it a try, I still think it is the display and it?s battery as it is only supposed to last 1 hour off the charger so by now it would have been pancaked.

Richard

Me to, and I pay using EDF's 24-hour auto-service so the money is debited from my account automatically. They still insist on calling it 'cash or cheque' account though

I suspect that you are lucky in having a display that you can have a quick glace at

even for those people who don't have their meter hidden in some outside cupboard, they are generally hidden in some inaccessible place somewhere inside, such that checking it hourly is a PITA

tim

I suspect that you are both paying more for your power than you need. From what I can see the cheapest tariffs from both SSE and EDF are now only available with a smart meter.

Of course they are happy. You are paying more for your power than needed. I suggest you check out the available tarrifs

Dave Wade

I just can't be bothered to switch. I think it's all a scam, anyway, and look at the number of "cheap" suppliers who have suddenly ceased trading. Better the devil you know, I think.

MM

Update, we had the IHD plugged into its charger for about 60 hours and the battery never seemed to show an increase in charge with the display having to be constantly switched on to get a reading. I did check several times that the charger was firmly in its socket and likewise the mini USB plug in the device. I was just about to try another charger when I noticed the display had come to life and was showing data so how do you explain that? Bearing in mind the battery in the device is only designed to last an hour just long enough to walk round with it to see how individual appliances are performing.

Anyway we have left it plugged in and to date it seems to be doing its job. There is no mention in the online instructions that initial charging would take that long but then again the instructions are for the previous model. So at the moment I do not know if it was the charger at fault or some quirk of the IHD. Testing the charger on another device is not possible as the USB plug has a shroud that prevents it inserting into most other devices. I would have thought that as with most battery devices once put on charge the device would operate as normal? It?s all black magic I must not have known the right incantations, well for now that?s Scottish Power off the hook.

Richard

I was seriously thinking of EDF's electric car tarrif, but it looks like you have to have an electric car to get them to allow you to have it.

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