OT: Rolls Royce on track to deliver SMR

Feb 12, 2021 Last reply: 5 years ago 223 Replies
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'Precautions'. WTF are you talking about?

Bwhaha ... you think those people make such decisions .... bwahaha,

Yeah, right. You sad, deluded goblin.

"Please stop telling us what you feel. Please stop telling us what your intuition is. Your intuitive feelings are of no interest whatsoever, and nor are mine. I don't give a bugger what you feel, or what I feel. I want to know what the evidence shows." -- Richard Dawkins"

1) You don't seem to have the brains / imagination / intelligence to come up with anything of your own. 2) Feelings have nothing to do with the irrefutable *FACT* that anything that involves nuclear has the *potential* to do bad things for a long time and over a large area. Full stop.

Were you a study of Mr Dawkins when he was looking for the ultimate example of the existence of the Selfish Gene?

Cheers, T i m

Not sure they are allowed to live from birth or live long enough if they aren't born mutated for any such mutations to come out (if such was likely etc).

I thought I caught mention of sheep 'often' having mutated lambs on the TV the other day (some farming show / Countryfile) but I didn't catch where or why (if not 'normal' irrespective of the environmental conditions etc).

Probably just another 'cost' to the farmer (and the animals of course) as a result of over / selective breeding ...

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Cheers, T i m

I think we can safely say that the B12 supplementation isn't working.

Please feel free to let your 'bigger picture' right-brained approach select the facts that suit your agenda.

Your statement fails to mention that an air-burst was chosen *primarily* to cause maximum blast damage. The contamination aspect was a secondary issue.

And it is an urban myth anyway. The same amount of radioactivity is released. It just tends to be in gas form from an airburst

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Trolls like Spuke are like snipers using bollox for ammunition (and why they are so easy to ignore).

'Of course'.

Quite, not throwing up tons of radioactive contaminated mass that will fall down elsewhere, even on a country 1500+ miles away, contaminating that as well for many many years.

The same sort of thing as a nuclear power station catching fire etc.

Now, if they can *NEVER* do any of that, irrespective of the reason, then everything is fine. If you can't guarantee them to never do that, you then have to evaluate the risks against alternatives.

*Today*, there are more alternatives than when we were first building nukes and why some countries are hesitant of building new ones and further have the 'nuclear power phase-out'.

Same logic as banning legally owned in the UK. If they aren't there there is less chance of them being used for bad things, even though the vast majority weren't.

Cheers, T i m

Salads in Spain are fed with excrement and then washed in chlorine, you know, the deadly stuff the Americans use to wash chicken carcasses.

To be fair, the objection is not to chlorine washing of chicken, but to the poor conditions that they are kept and processed in and that make chlorine washing necessary.

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That's why daughter (her group and many others) fast for 24 hours on the 2nd of every month in support for all the animals that are starved before slaughter ... because if they haven't eaten (or drunk, often) anything the previous ~72 hours it won't be so 'incontinent for the whole killing and butchering process with less 'mess' to clean up from the killing floor and off the animal flesh.

Feeding them is also considered a 'waste of resources' ... nice (not).

AFOTS, Animals first on the second.

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Cheers, T i m

On Sun, 28 Feb 2021 14:19:37 +0000, bert snipped-for-privacy@bert.bert.com> wrote: <snip for the lazy troll and nymshifter>

Yes, by recycling, easy given they are mostly glass and metal. And why

25 years? Just because they might not be giving 100% of their initial capacity there would be no reason to dispose of them if they were still outputting something?

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Oh dear, the poor burke / Spuke troll doesn't even know what CFL stands for ... ;)

'Compact fluorescent lamp / bulb' ... of did you mean CFBs but I guess more than there might be in landfill if 'people' like you don't dispose of them properly (our local recycling centre has a place for them and plain tubes).

And why focus on CFL's and not smoke detectors and not anything powered by nicad or NiMh cells?

Cheers, T i m

And which metals would they be?

Approximate life cycle.

Wiki CFL A compact fluorescent lamp (CFL), also called compact fluorescent light

Not as smart as you think.

10 year life expectancy Much less of a problem, but a problem just the same. How many people will simply chuck them in the waste bun esp those without a car to go to the recycling centre.

And mercury has an infinite half life, so arguably far worse than any radioisotope as, unlike low level radiation, mercury does stay in the body and build up and cause madness....hello T i m? Been eating the CFLs again?

perhaps he's a hatter!

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Read 'Hatters castle' for a truly dark account of mercury poison, religious mania and Scottishness.

Agreed, but the media manage to avoid presenting it like that.

c) Neither of the above. There would be an awful lot of nasty stuff floating around in the water from all the destroyed industry, and at the least they'll have to deal with the mud. And assuming they rebuild the dam demand for property might be a bit low.

My point is not that nuclear is 100% safe. It's just that it doesn't destroy the climate, stop at night or when the weather is wrong, nor have the risks that the Chinese demonstrated so nicely.

IMHO It's the least bad alternative. Fusion would be better, especially H-H fusion, not least because the waste is short life and there's no fuel problem. But I'm not going to hold my breath for that.

Show me a viable safe alternative and I'll be campaigning outside Sizewell.

Andy

OOI, how much of what was (conventionally) bombed flat during any war (where the war has stopped) has not been rebuilt pretty quickly?

How many of the areas flooded during our floods have just been abandoned for 30+ years?

Is all the rubble, glass and insulation from the twin towers still in a heap?

My point is whilst I agree there can be some pretty grim stuff kicking about after any major event / disaster / catastrophe, most of it *can* be safely cleaned away by folks with buckets and shovels.

Quite.

Well, if we ignore the damage done to the environment done when you make anything, be it a solar panel, wind turbine or nuclear power station (and in their decommissioning ... but where nuclear may have 'extra issues'), neither do solar, wind, hydro etc?

Different subject.

No, but certainly do have 'risks'.

Ah, that it may well be, again, until it goes wrong and impacts you or your family. And that 'going wrong' can be in a different country thousands of miles away.

Agreed.

No, it does look to be a long way off still, well, how they are dealing with it so far.

Again, just because something seems to be the only solution, doesn't justify it's existence, *if* the risks / costs are too great.

It's very similar to our keeping of sentient animals to then slaughter and eat when there are *already* alternatives out there, when the mere keeping and feeding them is already causing all of us (humans and the other animals) more issues than the solution it provides.

The 'lesser of two evils' in this case would be *having* to kill and exploit sentient creatures, not be doing so as the first choice?

Like with consuming animals, consuming fossil fuels have distracted us from doing what we could / should have been doing otherwise.

Cheers, T i m

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Look at the link you stupid lazy troll.

What, till they are completely dead?

What? You really are thick aren't you? Whoosh.

What you called them was a 'Compact fluorescent lamp bulb' because you didn't realise that 'CFL' already described them as 'lamps' (they aren't 'bulbs'). You would probably also say '3 am in the morning'. ...'

Certainly smarter than you on that.

Quite.

Many (was my prediction), but then your issue is with 'people', not equipment (as may have been some of the issue with Chernobyl).

Cheers, T i m

Not very environmentally friendly to drive to the recycling centre to dispose of a single CFL; or remote control; or toaster; or any of the other "small electricals". All right for something big like a TV.

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