OT - renewables etc. in a foggy low wind day

Beware the weasel words.

We are not aimimg for "zero carbon"/fossil fuel" we are aming for "nett zero" ie still dumping vast quanties of fossil CO2 into the atmosphere but off setting that by planting a shrubbery. Onne that looks nice and not too expensive.

Mainly noting that if we intend to ban (new) gas boilers and petrol/diesel card by 2030 somebody needs to get their finger out with the provisioning of more base load at a minimum.

I'm not knocking going "zero carbon", just noting that we need more than aspirations and mission statements.

Cheers

Dave R

I think you meant to say 10% of electricity. Last I heard electricity was 20-25% of total power consumption so 10% of electricity equates to

Another Dave

And how is carbon offsetting being determined? In the EV station thread a figure of 100 trees per EV car was quoted (by the solar farm and car dealer owner/manager/spokesperson). Where did this figure come from - thin air? That's around 3.8 billion trees to just replace all the cars in the UK. At 2500[1] trees per hectare that's around 6% of the area of the UK. Presumably as it's carbon capture these trees should not be cut down until mature and then for no purpose that releases the carbon again so perhaps every 10 to 15 years another 6% of the UK land area is needed.

Once again highlighting that the lack of electricity storage which is efficient is one of the main drawbacks, This feast or famine situation would be lessoned somewhat if the storage problem was licked. Brian

Thank you Brian. Do you have that on a tape loop? :-)

Brian is really a classic example of the 'mice in council' A cat-beller par excellence.

Yes Brian, and our energy problems would be totally solved if we licked the fusion reactor problem or the fission reactor problem by running everything on pixie dust and avian porcine droppings, and building it all out of unobtanium.

Or, as my family used to say:

If we had some eggs we could have egg and chips. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . If we had some chips.

Cheers

Dave R

More if we had some chickens we could have egg and chips but remember to plant the potatoes. Brian

Where did the chickens come from ?

Andrew

The other side of the road.

Why?

When there is no sun or wind they should open the taps in hydro power stations in Scotland, Wales and Norway. When there's excess wind and sun use it to pump the water back to the top.

You do need to emphasise the /sarc on that comment, otherwise some people here might get the wrong impression. Of course, greenies would think you were being perfectly serious!

Why not?

As in 'why did the chicken cross the road?'