OT Remotely connecting to PC

Would they be running the same operating system as you or not? Brian

Personally, as storage is so cheap, why not just have a windows install and use team viewer? Brian

"Your bank account has been compromised", "Allow us to connect to your computer and move your savings to another safe account"

I was helping an older lady sort her Laptop out and installed Teamviewer on there for her. When I initially ran it it wouldn't connect and I don't think I could ping it either and I Googled the issue. Turns out her ISP blocks it by default, (for reasons you cite), soon removed via their online chat.

The same applied to TV on my phone when using her WiFi, ok on mobile data.

Cheers, T i m

Yeah, but they will soon keep calling you back as it seems so effortless to them.

After me getting so many requests to sort out their windows problems, to the point that one lady thought I was available to type her dictated letters, I suggested to one to go Apple and one other I flattened the machine and installed Linux.

Never heard from either again....

Teamviewer throws up a big warning if you accept a support connection from India now :-) Which caused a number of scammers to initiate a connection in the other direction (i.e. you controlling them) and then ask you to flip the direction. That made for some good sport for the scammer baiters!

ConnectWise (previously ScreenConnect) also does linux support. (you can also self host the server end, and not pay ongoing fees for commercial use)

Yeah, I think I saw some Youtube CCTV footage from a spammers call centre (that the spam baiters had also hacked) of one of them (and then the others) reacting to *their* machines being attacked. ;-)

The Mrs generally just tells them to f'off and I'll play with them a bit if I have the time and am in the mood (if they are wasting time on me they won't be attacking anyone else).

One of my questions with some of the more technical sounding ones is 'You sound like you know what you are doing, why can't you get a proper support job'?

Did you see that on TV recently when a small phone repair Co had been taken out of business by people leaving negative reviews. It turned out people (in India in this case) were being paid £100 / neg review and when confronted (online / phone) wouldn't retract them because that's how they earned their living. Well, I think they would retract them but only at £100 per review!

Cheers, T i m

Thanks all for your thoughts and ideas. I wasn't sure whether the net of the comments was that TeamViewer was insecure or it just happens to be used by some hackers?

Hi Lee,

Yes, the latter.

It's all I've really used since a bit of VNC and my PC Anywhere days and it works very well.

Because I have been known to help a lot of people, it did a couple of times lock me out with a 'Commercial uses detected' but would then run ok on a different PC and the lockout wasn't for long (but I was using it quite a bit and some very long sessions, when remotely resolving / servicing neglected friends / family machines).

In one case I completely remotely installed Linux on a laptop for someone I met though Freecycle, firstly by downloading and burning a Live Linux DVD, getting them to boot from it and install Teamviewer and them me installing Linux from there. ;-)

As long as the list is reasonable I have always found it to be very very reliable (and will also 'reconnect' using the same credentials of you disconnect by mistake or it drops out for some reason (normally the password will change each time, if not set etc).

Cheers, T i m

p.s. The bread baking is still a regular thing here but with the same outcome (slightly smaller / denser that 'expected' loaves), pretty well irrespective of the process! In fact, I didn't kneed the last two loaves *at all* and whilst they didn't seem to rise quite as much whilst proving, they rose a bit in the oven. ;-)

So, their (Wrights Flour) instructions say: Add water and mix for 5 mins (I probably mix for 30 seconds as it's thoroughly mixed (by hand) at that point. Leave to stand for 5 mins (I don't), kneed for 5 mins (I didn't the last two at all but have kneaded for 20 mins with no noticeable difference), leave for stand for 5 mins (I don't), cover (I don't) and leave to prove for ~30 mins (I do), stick in GMK8 oven for

We have now tried probably 5 of their pre-mixes and they all have worked and been enjoyed by us. Just as well the slices are not as big as a factory loaf as they are quite filling!

TV itself is (as far as I am aware) secure - however its a popular tool for scammer use...

Quite often they talk marks though using an alternative tool to get up and running, then once they have remote control switch to TV. That way they can avoid the user seeing the warnings from TV, but still take advantage of TV's capability to blank the users screen (handy when they want to hack the HTML of the users bank page to create fake money in accounts).

That reminds me that TalkTalk block Teamviewer (or at least did in March). It took me a little while to cotton on to that when trying to help someone. I thought it worth mentioning as Lee wd have to get the account holder to contact TalkTalk support to get the block removed.

Already it sounds like bollocks. That's getting on for 4 hours for a skilled developer in India.

And?

What *is* the standard rate for doing something immoral / illegal OOI?

Cheers, T i m

Thanks very much all will give TV a try.

TeamViewer ?