OT: Prorouging and the Supreme Court

The English Bill of Rights also gives us the right to bear arms. Our interpretation of how that works is rather different from that in the USA.

Of course there are always conditions, but not ones that tie up the whole country with huge numbers of rules. How many are part of the EU/Japan FTA?

The main ones seem to be following the same standards for cars, which they effectively did anyway and freedom of movement for professionals (as part of movement between employers' offices). Oh and they can't sell whale meat to the EU.

As the UK is a sovereign nation and NI is part of it, while the EU is not a nation at all, put the border between the RoI and the rest of the EU? No? Thought not, so why should the UK remain bound to the EU for perpetuity unless we have a border between two parts of our nation?

If the people of NI want to leave the UK and join the ROI, then they have the right to (it is likely to happen eventually), until then they remain an integral part of the UK, but that cannot be used to prevent the UK leaving. It is the EU that insist on the itegrity of their precious SM and thus that there must be a hard border unless NI is effectively separated from the UK, not the UK.

SteveW

You'd need to define huge numbers. And how they effect the majority in practice. After all many on here when on and on about domestic vacuum cleaner power consumption. As if this was a deal breaker for all.

Free movement of essential 'workers' seemed to be part of the May deal too.

Gaining back control of our borders was one of the key aspects of the leave campaign. Who oddly didn't seem to realise the implications of that on our one and only land border with the EU. But then they went on and on about sovereignty - until that turned round and bit them on the arse.

Its only about 550 pages long.

Which they could look up if they wanted to.

Of course that's the agreement and not all the negotiations or the twelve or so annexes.

Dave Plowman wrote

If Boris comes back with a milk & honey deal, labour would probably still vote against it, just to further their own ends ...

Bless!

you wont *get* a reasonable deal unless 'no deal' is on the table.

That is also completely true