OT: Organ donation should be compulsory, not just "opt out"

At least here in the U.S., they attempt to make contact with the relatives of the dying person, before transplanting organs solely based on the individual's identification card, which expresses that he or she is an organ donor. My driver's license indicates that i would donate organs, but I'm pretty sure they'd still ask my family about it if they were able to contact them.

On Feb 19, 2021 at 11:39:42 AM MST, ""Commander Kinsey"" wrote snipped-for-privacy@ryzen.lan:

Many accept body autonomy for the dead over that of women.

On Feb 19, 2021 at 11:54:45 AM MST, "Joel" wrote snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

Here in the US many people want body autonomy for their DEAD body, but want to deny it to living women.

not just thinking

You remind me of one summer working with a medical student who asked me if I wanted to see a picture of his body. Then he showed me a picture of him and three other medical students standing around a dead body lighting a cigarette that they had put in the body's mouth.

Then he told me stories of the jokes where one of the student's girl friends would find an ear in her purse. Then there was the penis.

Want to give your body to science - go for it.

Only Muslim crazy nuts. Take away religious rights, it's f****ng up the world.

I knew someone would say that. I live in Scotland a d know they've done it (first sensible thing Sturgeon has ever done), but I read that Canada was considering it. I don't know if they have or not, so the brackets was for Canada.

Don't organs have to be of a similar size, so same sex and same age?

That's wasting valuable time.

Would you prefer science has a lack of bodies and people die?

Is it true dead people often get erections?

You cannot do compulsory while respecting the beliefs of others. Yes they can make it opt out, I was under the impression it already was in England. Brian

I did everything in my power to make my organs accessible if I die, both with my ID and with talking to my family about it.

Organ donation should still be optional, but with two provisos:

- the assumption is that unless you are on record as saying no, it should be presumed that you agree to donate

- your next of kin has no right to countermand your wishes and withhold their permission even though you have said that you want to donate: their permission should not even be sought

Legally they have all the rights. Once you?re dead (or brain dead) you have no rights.

Tim

But you have the right to determine what will happen to your body in the same way that a will directs how you want your money to be distributed. I'm not sure what the legal position is if the executor that you have appointed decides to to completely disregard your will - is that an offence? (I'm ignoring the cases where there are statutory obligations to make provision for children etc, and your will excludes them or "cuts them off with a ha'penny", or where someone is judged to be ineligible to inherit because they have murdered you and would be profiting by their crime.)

What is the earthly point of people choosing to be on the organ donor register if a relative can come along and countermand it? You might as well not have chosen to donate if they can disregard you.

If the law currently requires the NoK to be consulted and to be given right of veto, then the law should be changed so the deceased's wishes are honoured *by definition* rather than with NOK's permission.

On Feb 19, 2021 at 2:00:50 PM MST, "Tim+" wrote snipped-for-privacy@news.individual.net>:

I think even Republicans should have rights.

Um, no you don?t. You can express your wishes to your next of kin about what happens to your body but once you?re brain dead, but your next of kin don?t have to follow those wishes. They are empowered to make decisions about you when you are no longer able to do so.

Many a kidney has gone to the crematorium that the owner wanted to be donated but the next of kin declined.

Well , the sad fact is that it has no legal power *but* if a person has made a clear ante-mortem declaration it does make it a lot easier for doctors to persuade relatives to donate organs.

Keep wishing. Maybe it?ll happen eventually.

Tim

Agreed, although I'm not Jewish. That's Snit.