OT: It couldnt happen to a nicer newspaper..

I've no idea what the spread of wages across the Guardian empire is - have you? But if they want a decent editor I'd guess they have to pay the going rate. Same as for any job.

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Dave Plowman (News)
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Guessed what you meant. I am curious why you single out the Guardian for not practising what it preaches though? Pretty well all the major papers offend in this way. One reason I never buy any. Other being they seem to exist to provide bigots with 'proof' they are right.

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Dave Plowman (News)

We do know the obscene rate they pay the editor and know that with so many papers dying now, that there is no reason to pay the journos much at all.

There is no going rate with papers dying like flies now.

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Simon M

En el artículo , pamela escribió:

Agreed. It needs to be read alongside a more right-leaning news site to get a balanced view. But with the decline of the Telegraph into listicle and clickbait crap, which one?

I've a soft spot for the Guardian, as I started reading it in my teems thirty-mumble years ago when it was then a huge broadsheet with intelligent, principled, well-researched campaigning journalism, often with an underlying current of satire and sarcasm.

The Neil Hamilton, al-Fayed and brown envelope scandal particularly sticks in my mind. They were also happy to give a platform to writers that other papers wouldn't touch.

One thing I didn't like about it, though, was the ink that came off on your hands. And I cooled off on it rapidly after finding out Rubbisher's salary and the fact that the Scott Trust hides its do$h on overseas tax havens.

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Mike Tomlinson

En el artículo , The Natural Philosopher escribió:

That's because the story been bought in from a news agency such as AP or Reuters. The Depress won't actually have done any journalism of its own on that story except maybe a little editing.

In other words, they don't bake their own cakes, but buy in ready-made, with the usual blandness and sameness that results.

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Mike Tomlinson

En el artículo , Adrian Caspersz escribió:

Alongside Diana and Maddie. And Lord Lucan's hiding in that crater over there.

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Mike Tomlinson

Mike Tomlinson posted

There is nothing wrong with paying the editor a high salary and keeping your investments offshore. What is wrong is to do those while running front splash stories criticising other people for doing the same things.

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Handsome Jack

En el artículo , Handsome Jack escribió:

Agreed, which was the point I was making.

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Mike Tomlinson

Love to know what newspaper hasn't done just the same at one time or another.

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Dave Plowman (News)

Not got too much sympathy with those who have decided on principle not to have the internet. They are just making things difficult for themselves these days.

The obvious exception being those too poor to afford it.

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Dave Plowman (News)

Selling golden goose Auto Trader wasnt super bright.

Scott Trust has to invest in all sorts of high yield hedge funds to sustain the losses of the paper, high yield and ethical aren`t always compatible.

Story remember of Grauniad, which characterised it forever in my mind , Sar ah Tisdall

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Adam Aglionby

En el artículo , Adam Aglionby escribió:

Ooh, yes. ouch. Not one of their finer moments.

Though the move from broadsheet to Berliner format was, I thought, a brave one.

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Mike Tomlinson

Not surprising. Their newspaper has advised them against having it.

(yes, really)

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Adrian Caspersz

The Guardian is still a good newspaper but I can't stand its relentlessly pinko selection criteria for the stories. Also it focuses too much on campaigning at the expense of plain hard news.

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pamela

Then buy the Torygraph. All papers are slanted to suit the views of their readers.

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Dave Plowman (News)

Except election time.

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Adrian Caspersz

Ah - yes. To promote the interests of their owners then.

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Dave Plowman (News)

or more likely, their owners...

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JoeJoe

their advertisers

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The Natural Philosopher

I doubt the advertisers care what the politics are in an absolute sense (as long as they aren't ridiculously extreme)

They only care what profile of reader it brings

tim

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