OT Hisense and TCL tv

An electronics-recycling friend of mine lives in Southend, a place that seems to have inhabitants that regularly pollute their streets with chucked out TVs and DVD players, for no real reason other than presumed boredom. He has rescued many of these, with no real faults found.

Owners of manufacturers that habitually building in obsolescence into their products and ripping off consumers, should attract a nice green tax on profits for the environmental impact of this waste.

But they don't pay green taxes. We do :-(

Above you surely ?. Isn't that why Richer Sounds and others sell speakers that fit in the ceiling. ?

The cheaper option (and for those in rented housing) is up-firing speakers that bounce off the ceiling.

Sony seem to manage, (allegedly)

Andrew

Thanks.... So started out the day yesterday to buy a £800 LG TV for £680.. Then saw Costco had it for £650 but no longer available online so popped to my local store on the off chance. Then saw the Hisense and TCL TVs. Ended up getting a £900 Hisense (although that was the presale price in Curry's so not sure how valid) cheapest online was £550 and Costco in store had it for £420.

Rugby then got in the way of setting it up. So that is today's activity

And above for a full Dolby Atmos set up.

No, the atmos bit stream contains "objects" with associated metadata to place and move them individually within a 3D sound field.

Out of interest, does anyone have an OLED TV? Is it really that much better? Suffer from pixel failure with age?

I'm not really interested in how much better it is for watching high res etc films off the net or for gaming. Just how it performs as a normal TV.

I asked on a BBC technical forum, and got no replies. Which suggests they may not be quite the improvement claimed. Although it would be nice to go back to CRT days where the picture doesn't much alter with viewing angle.

Not me. I though burn-in was more the issue with them?

I think the differences between LCD/OLED/QLED come down to whether you want to watch normal telly in a lighted room, or films in a darkened room?

Which is more of a sign of what the resale value of these are, even when working.

We would pay them either way.

I still think that "burn in" is running (electronic) equipment for a period before installation/long-term use to weed out devices on the 'front' of the bathtub curve.

Screen burn (with no 'in') is the result of leaving stationary text (or similar) on a display screen.

No burn in on our plasma which is > 10 years old... But then I don't display timecode at peak white on it for 12 hrs/day... Seen many a CRT with burn marks visible when powered off. B-)

I was tempted by an OLED until Ilooked on AV Forums - lots of discussion but enough mentioning burn to put me off. RS tried to persuade me to get OLED but, having taken advice on AVF, I'd decided on Samsung QLED. The Sonys are good for upscaling I'm told but rather reflective. Bought a 55" Samsung QE55Q80R (couldn't fit in a 65"); hardly any reflection and a very wide viewing angle - still agood picture at 70 deg off and acceptable at 80 deg. I don't know about its "smart" capabilities as it's not connected. I felt that too much personal info might be required (there was a message on screen saying some might be asked for).

The Hisense stuff is ok, although slightly less well supported with apps.

Some Hisense at least are using the Roku OS. It's not that well known in the UK, but really common in the US.

And there are hundreds of apps.

Andy

I have been using a LG 55" OLED set for just over three years...

Better? Yes, but it depends on what you want from it.

No pixel failure.

There is a feature you can get where some faint noise type effects show up in the picture (visible on flat colour backgrounds). However you can tell it to do a panel "de-noise" that clears these.

Some minor non permanent burn in type effects that are visible if you frequently display pages with fixed position content.

The pros:

Very high contrast ratio with a true "black" Very wide viewing angles - no shift in colour rendition with change in angle. No bright halo effects on high contrast images.

The cons:

Can't match the peak brightness of some backlit sets.

As to use as a TV, much depends on the tuner. I would expect all current sets have a DVB T2 tuner and that is obviously much better than its older non HD version.

However just using the tuner you will not see the benefit of high dynamic range content which is where the OLED really shines (pun intended!) I find if I watch HDR content on the bedroom 4k HiSense LED backlit LCD, then its "better" than non HDR - but its not a dramatic improvement. However on the OLED the difference (and improvement to the experience for me at least) is *very* noticeable (and more significant than shifting from HD to 4K IME).

(note for best HDR viewing you may need to tell the source device what the capabilities of the display are. I found that on my DVD player for example, it defaults to less peak brightness than the set can actually handle when playing HDR content)

Well OLED certainly gives you that...

It does depend a bit on the setup you are installing it into. If its in a home cinema setting then you may never even use the built in sound anyway.

While the poorest flat screen TVs have truly horrible sound, I would say the better ones are no worse than the majority of mid range or lower CRT sets IME. The later "home cinema" spec CRTs obviously beat modern ones, but then they have lots of cabinet volume and physics on their side.

Hi all

Set the Hisense up and it looks like it needs to go back. The main issue is that the picture on SD TV is very poor. I have an old LG plasma on the wall and the SD picture is much better than the Hisense. Support say this is normal.

Couple of other issues are

1. When you switch on clear motion the picture flickers madly
2. It is generating errors saying CPU High usage alert The support guy says this is normal
3. The picture test has swirls of colour and the edge of the swirls are blocky

Given this is supposed to be one down from the top of their range I can only think I have a dud one as the reviews online are very good. Having said that I haven't found any that cover the SD TV picture

Would love to hear if anyone else has one of these (55U7QFTUK).

Thanks

Lee

says

"This Hisense?s decent picture is undermined by poor motion handling, and it?s only worth considering if heavily discounted"

Andy

Rubbish is OK if cheap enough?