OT: Global temperatures plummeting

https://wattsupwiththat.com/2016/11/28/steepest-drop-in-global-temperature-on-record/
or http://tinyurl.com/jjvb6qn
A couple of caveats:
These are measurements made by satellite over land. Lower troposphere temperatures recorded by satellite have never shown the same rise in temperatures as the so-called and oft-quoted global temperatures (supposedly a combination of land and sea-based direct measurements AIUI), over the period 1975-2000.
We are going into a La Niña period, following a particularly strong El Niño 2015/16.
Those caveats notwithstanding, this comment is noteworthy "According to satellite data, the late 2016 temperatures are returning to the levels they were at after the 1998 El Nino." So the temperatures are flat-lining, as can be seen from the graph.
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On Tue, 29 Nov 2016 09:14:43 +0000, Chris Hogg wrote:

temperature-on-record/

It's totally mad. We need to be burning *more* fossil fuels - at subsidised rates - than less.
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On Tuesday, 29 November 2016 09:40:27 UTC, Cursitor Doom wrote:

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Anthony_Watts
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On 29/11/16 09:39, Cursitor Doom wrote:

The problem is that TPTB are so concerned about staying in power, they devote no effort to actually ensuring the future of civilisation.
Instead they have let corporate Greed and Green bollocks dictate energy policy.
Pretty soon you will be arrested for disagreeing with government online, or publishing any article that doesn't conform to the state verified Truth.
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On Tue, 29 Nov 2016 10:41:47 +0000, The Natural Philosopher

Sooner than you think? http://tinyurl.com/hjaypjc
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On 29/11/16 12:47, Chris Hogg wrote:

As the commenters say 'you can take the girl out of East Germany....'
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On Tue, 29 Nov 2016 10:41:47 +0000, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

Which has happened in the past. With tiresome predictability.
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On 29/11/16 14:33, Jethro_uk wrote:

Those that fail to learn the lessons of history....
I loved the Yucatan. All those magnificent ruins prompted a question 'what happened to the people that built Chichen Itza'?
Then I got back to the hotel, and realised there they all were, serving me drinks and building more hotels.
The question then became' what happened to the people who ordered chichen itza to be built' and of course the answer was 'they killed them, when climate change destroyed their way of of life and all the human sacrifices in the world didn't work'.
And that's what will happen to people who advocate man made climate change. They will get killed. And in 500 years people will look at ruined windfarms and wonder what religious purpose they served, there being no other logical reason for their construction.
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On Tue, 29 Nov 2016 14:33:04 +0000, Jethro_uk wrote:

It's getting more like Russia under Stalin with every passing year all over the West today. Fortunately, the prospect of totally controlling dissent on the internet is a slim one and 'they' also have to bear in mind that those who make peaceful protest impossible make violent protest inevitable.
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Even sillier than you usually manage. No one executed in the Lubyanka etc.
No gulags either.

Impossible, actually.

Even sillier than you usually manage.
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On Tue, 29 Nov 2016 13:03:56 +0000, TimW wrote:

Define "climate" Define "change"
next !
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On Tue, 29 Nov 2016 09:14:43 +0000, Chris Hogg wrote:

temperature-on-record/

You're an occasional poster on uk.sci.weather ,Chris - why didn't you post this there?
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escribió:

*ding*
It's not just the vested interests of America.
I don't have a particular view on global warming or cooling, being unconvinced either way. But you've hit the nail on the head with your comment about those promulgating either view. They're scientists with a conformable tenure and plenty of research funds and they're keen for it to stay that way, so the argument will continue ad infinitum.
There were 25,000 delegates at the recent Paris climate conference. Nice little jolly, eh?
example I could give is Bill Grieg of some uni in London who with monotonous regularity predicts that the side of one Canary island will fall off, creating a mega-tsunami that is going to wipe out most of the American eastern seaboard and more besides. As long as he can maintain tenure with 'research' funds on his scare story, he's got a nice, comfortable little billet, thank you very much.
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On Wednesday, 30 November 2016 06:50:02 UTC, Mike Tomlinson wrote: They're scientists with a

Spot on as usual!
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/jul/08/exxon-climate-change-1981-climate-denier-funding
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On 30/11/16 07:07, Simon Mason wrote:

or indeed today https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/30/donald-trump-george-monbiot-misinformation [quote] tobacco, coal, oil, chemicals and biotech companies have poured billions of dollars into an international misinformation machine composed of thinktanks, bloggers and fake citizens’ groups. Its purpose is to portray the interests of billionaires as the interests of the common people, to wage war against trade unions and beat down attempts to regulate business and tax the very rich.[/quote]
And still there are clowns like the posters here who think that an academic with a salary and a ticket to a conference is somehow corruption.
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comfortable, dammit. :)
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On 30/11/2016 06:49, Mike Tomlinson wrote:

Bill McGuire? He doesn't *quite* fit that description, though . . .
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Yes, thank you. I did think what I'd written didn't look right...
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So you're ignoring the data in the chart for this century I linked to. Not many people would disagree that there _was_ a period of warming between 1975 and 2000, but I fail to see how anyone can claim the warming has continued in this century, when it clearly hasn't. To claim otherwise is just silly.
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On 30/11/16 08:05, Chris Hogg wrote:

Or desperate. They are all in denial. True climate deniers every one.
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