For a few weeks, we have been buying regular small boxes of oranges
from the local coop, described as 'grade 1 easy peelers' - Spanish
Having a sweet tooth, I found them quiet juicy and sweet though not
entirely consistent even from the same box. The last box contents was
different, not so sweet, not so juicy and very pithy, not nice at all
so they were binned. The obvious difference was that they had a lump
where the stalk goes, bulging rather like nipple. Might that suggest
they had been picked too soon, or simply a different variety?
On Fri, 16 Feb 2018 14:03:10 GMT, Harry Bloomfield
Different variety. They're commonly known as 'Navel Oranges', because
of the likeness of the bulge to a human navel. Navel oranges are
Depends on country of origin and method of picking, transport and
storage. Some regions are not suited for fruit growing although that
doesn't stop the production of such as it seems the only important
criteria is the look of the fruit rather than taste.
I think you are confusing oranges and mandarins/clementines.
I think what you are referring to is a "clemenule" - see fruit at upper
right in picture here:
There are so many varieties these days available in shops simply sold
under a big label which says "Clementines" (eg "Nadorcott") that if in a
net bag you need to look closely at the label on the bag to see what you
are actually buying!
More than possible, I have never studied the subject.
Like that, but with a very pronounced bulge where the stalk went, which
was why I wondered if they might have been picked to early - they
hadn't filled out properly.
I bought another box/ pack today, these are nicely rounded and lack the
bulge - just like the contents of the previous boxes. Yet to try them,
but it looks promising. I am trying increase my fruit intake.
But the inability to transport and display bananas correctly seems to
have spread from M & S, who have always been hopeless, to other local
I don't like the large brown patches. It was never like this in the days
of clipper ships.
Or well past their date. Oranges are funny things, as some are just no
edible and only really useful in things like preserves etc. I'm told you can
tell by the leaves of the tree, but assuming these are all the edible types,
its hard to really say, but my guess is that they have been perhaps either
picked too soon or too late or left hanging around too long.
This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from...
Do the buyers for the supermarkets actually taste or perform any quality
control before the fruit gets put on the shelves?
I've just thrown away a packet of pears that seem to have turned to some
form of concrete rather than ripening!
The only fruit I ever buy from supermarkets is/are bananas.
Then its necessary to shop around to find branches which stock
large bananas, as most seem to prioritise small or medium
"lunchbox size" fruit.
Pears are always difficult as they have to be picked and transported
unripe/hard as they bruise so easily once they start to ripen.
One of the advantages of living where I do, is that there are plenty
of ethnic greengrocers, many of whom have displays/piles of pears
outside the shop; 90% of which are similarly hard. Its sometimes necessary
to visit 5 or 6 of these shops to find the one or two pears in each
pile which will ripen fully within the next week. They go straight
in the fridge door and are taken out one or two at a time to
warm up over the next 24 hours.
Which with experience doesn't take that much longer than visiting the
supermarket when you know where to go. Same with oranges.
But then not everybody lives in a city with the pavements
cluttered with ethnic shops I suppose.
Despite experts claiming they need to be at room temperature to ripen,
at room temperature they'll ripen too quick and the final three of four will
go mushy. Unlike other fruit, pears will also go mushy from the inside
out. Outside fine, inside brown. Storing them in the fridge door doesn't seem
to hinder ripening just slows it down. 69 to 79p per pound ATM
To expect any fruit or veg to be properly ripe from a supermarket is probably
expecting a bit much. Years ago when regular customers bought daily from proper
fruit and veg shops - as with the ethnics to certain extent today the shopkeepers
could buy just what they needed from wholesalers they could trust to sell within
one or two days. Like opening restaurants overstocking on fresh produce
without the benefit of frozen storage is a quick road to bankruptcy.
The supermarkerts threw all that out of the window. Because of the long
supply chains to compete on price while keeping waste to acceptable
levels they have to prioritise shelf life. While customers will carry on
buying rock hard unripe and tasteless fruit and vet, as soon as they
find anything rotten they will be demanding their money back and
pictures of their mouldy fruit and veg will be splashed all over the
red-tops. Ideally just pulled from the mouth of their two year old tot.
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