"I've had an irritating, boring and fruitless time at school today. It's assessment week, (only six weeks since the last one) and I fail to see what good it's doing the kids. The tests take all week, as we have to do each one with groups of kids, and meanwhile the rest of the class just do something to keep them occupied. Then, to finish the day off, the staff meeting was about inputting all the assessment data onto the school admin system, and interrogating it."
Bill
With all those "Kids" am I to assume you are a goat?
Makes sure the teachers are doing their jobs. Very unreliable lot these days. Heads full of strange (socialist) ideas.
Crap.
My son teaches in higher education and fears that what is already a shambles will become even worse under the tories. Most of the students doss about, attending only the lectures that suit them. Nobody fails because the lecturer would then have to justify this with a audit trail proving that all lectures were attended blah blah. Whole thing sounds a bit of a farce
In message , harryagain writes
Dangerous talk Harry.
I hope it was said tongue in cheek and that you forgot to add the smiley face :-)
Well, exactly.
I am coming to the conclusion that socialism amounts to a desire to build a perfect society based on perpetual motion. A laudable idea, but mne that has a small fundamental flaw in it.
Bollox
It's Harry's thinking that means people are leaving or failing to enter the school teaching profession big time, except maybe private schools where they are relieved of some of the nonsense.
We do actually monitor attendance at lectures, but mainly to identify students who are having problems. We get pretty good attendance (on most courses) but then mostly our students are studying a subject (CS) that motivates them.
Well from what I hear from teacher friends, teaching is a profession best avoided these days. Teachers are partly themselves to blame. Another profession like politicians and journalists that have never had a real job.
Crap again. If you'd tried it, you'd know differently.
Most of the teachers I know seem to think they'd get along better if various governments didn't change things every five minutes.
"Stop what you're doing and do me a written report on just how much longer it will take to finish the job"
"Same times as before plus the time taken to write the report"
Yesterday a bloke where I was working said that I could never become a school teacher.
He had only known me for 2 minutes.
Was it before or after you gave him the megger probes with 1000V on them? ;->
Indeed. I gave a lecture once (I am not a lecturer) - it was enough work to prepare an hour's worth of material the first time. And this was university students who at least mostly sit still and shut up (Bob may have other experiences!). I was not actually much good at it, but that was not for want of making a decent effort.
I've had enough experience with the kids' friends that trying to keep 6 of them from causing mayhem on a day out is a major undertaking in itself let alone teaching them anything.
As far as Ofsted paperwork goes, that can f*ck right off as far as I am concerned - I would not have the patience.
Inspections - necessary. But in themselves, fairly painless - Ofsted turn up, spend a few days hanging around with clipboards, then they go.
Monitoring to some extent is necessary when remediating a failed school. But why in gods name can they not leave the schools alone after they
*pass* an inspection. A reward for good results in part and because endless monitoring of a good school is just time wasting bollocks that stops the good teachers getting on with actual teaching.
All administrators multiply like rabbits. And give them some power and you can look out.
More Harry Bollox
A real job like...what is it you do exactly? Presumably at some point you benefited from an education, although the evidence isn't clear.
It's only the failing schools that have to do these assessments.
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