[ot] fire alarms in commericial premises

[damduck-egg]

Has the exemption that allows Hotels to designate rooms as smoking rooms been removed? While they may be rare now I'm sure it is less than ten years that I was offered the last room available but was told it was a room in which smoking was allowed and would smell a bit. It wasn't actually too bad although to be honest I think I would have preferred the smell of a good cigar rather than whatever room freshener spray they had used. Possibly because I was once a smoker though I stopped for 5 years by then.

G.Harman

[Nightjar]

IME, hotels that offer breakfast in the room rate are unusual these days, unless it is part of a special offer deal. At Christmas, for example, I got 40% off the room rates, with breakfast included as part of a promotional offer. Otherwise, if I did want to pay 14 or 15 Euro for a coffee and a couple of bread rolls, I would do so at the time of booking.

[Andrew Gabriel]

When I'm in the US, I always stay in rooms which have an integral kitchen/cooking area. Don't seem to find them here, but I'm rarely staying away for as long in the UK, so it's not so important.

[The Medway Handyman]

I don't know TBH but I think most hotels took it upon themselves to go totally non smoking.

Blatant discrimination against a minority group.

[Huge]

I've stayed in such places, and smell has never been an issue. I like them because it means you can have your brekky in your PJs rather than having to go down to the dining room. And you can have what & when you like.

The only downside I noticed last time was the noise the icemaker in the frig made, which kept me awake (until I disabled it.)

[Huge]

Yep. Great, isn't it!

[Paul Herber]

The Basildon Handyman?

[Andrew Gabriel]

Also, if I'm in the US for 2-3 weeks and eat out all the time, I come back considerably heavier! Perfectly happy to buy some things in the supermarket and eat at base some of the time (even though that's more expensive than eating out in California).

There are some advantages to being somewhat deaf.

[Stephen]

It's the OP here. I had to go away on work the other week and stayed in a hotel and had too much time on my hands, which is how I started wondering about their fire alarms.

I'm off on holiday next week and I am going to a travel lodge because it was half the cost of everywhere else. Don't worry, the children and I will manage with cornflakes or go somewhere to eat. I don't have a George Foreman grill and I'm vegetarian anyway, so I can assure you I wouldn't be frying up bacon and annoying all the guests!

I agree with other replies that such a grill could be a fire risk but surely no more so than an iron, hair dryer, hair straighteners, etc.?

I think it must be possible to cook some hot food that doesn't spit and smell (because that would be inconsiderate) and a spray of air freshener afterwards would help, but it was only meant to be a theoretical exercise.

Thanks for the replies and sorry for any controversy it created.

[Huge]

Sadly, I only get to go to New Jersey.

[Andrew Gabriel]

Depends on the country. In the UK, all rooms have to be non-smoking. In some other countries, they still allow smoking rooms (and designated indoor smaking areas).

2007 since it was law in England, although many establishments implemented their own bans before that.

[S Viemeister]

_Some_ bits of NJ are rather pleasant. My son and his wife recently bought a house in the woods in the western/central part of the state.

[damduck-egg]

Since I posted earlier I have had a gander on the WWW and I don't think you are correct.

This government PDF

which is quite recent seem to indicate it is still allowed.

Quoting from it

"There are a few limited exemptions to the ban where smoking may take place in designated rooms providing certain requirements are met, including: overnight sleeping accommodation in hotels, hostels and private members? clubs; prison cells; hospices; long stay care settings; specialist tobacconist shops and tobacco research facilities."

That is in England and Wales, I haven't looked up other parts of the UK.

Public rooms I agree have been No Smoking since 2007but it was bedrooms I remember the exemption was for .

It probably is rare to find a Hotel now that wants the extra costs of cleaning rooms especially the chains but I suspect an expensive independent somewhere may still have some for geriatric Colonels on fishing trips.

G.Harman

[Mr Pounder]

2000 - 2013.

[Mr Pounder]

This bunch will argue about anything and everything. There are some very rough men posting to this group. Now, can we get back to Muslim bashing please?

[ARW]

Yes I have seen what they charge. So you find the nearest Wetherspoons and have breakfast there with a couple of pints of John Smiths to brighten up the day and help with the hangover:-)

[Peter Johnson]

Yes. I'll admit to staying in one or two that 'were' in need of refurbishment, and I stopped using Wembley TL for that reason, each time I went it was a bit worse than before, but there was always a bar of soap and towels.

[Dave Liquorice]

Keep up at the back. The Travel Inn brand hasn't existed since 2004, when Whitbread bought Premier Lodge and rebranded the combined chains to Premier Travel Inn. Shortened to Premier Inn in 2007. B-)

As I said Travel Lodge were dire a few years back but the refurbished places are OK, I now at least look at what Travel Lodge has to offer but will only stay in a refurbished place.

[spuorgelgoog]

There are lots of websites with 'recipes' for things you can 'cook' using just a kettle.

More adventurous people steam-iron naan breads, or put boil-in-the-bag kippers in the trouser press.

Owain

[Huge]

Indeed. Doesn't call itself "The Garden State"? However, our offices are in Jersey City (*), which is fine so long as you stay within a couple of blocks of the Hudson, but if you go inland from there, you can buy as much crack cocaine as you can carry.

This is a phenomenon I've only ever noticed in the USA; neighbourhoods go from prosperous to dangerous in very short distances.

(Just across the Hudson River from Manhattan, north of Hoboken. Looks like it may be Union City, cf. Blondie.)