OT: Electric cars

That last is tricky with normal parking.

Not always feasible when the adjacent parker has been careless and still be able to enter and exit the car.

But the difference is that few have MRIs very often.

I won't because I have no chance of spending my accumulated wealth before I cark it and see no point in accumulating more to hand it on to anyone when I cark it.

Again, that depends on how carelessly the adjacent cars have been parked.

But that won't work when someone else chooses to stay in the car when you are doing the shopping or the hospital visit etc.

I will just make an obscene gesture in the general direction of the fools that demand I have an EV and keep using an ICE and may even buy another one before they can no longer be sold new.

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Rod Speed
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I'm just considering that question right now, because I have decided to move to Win11 from Win7 now that nothing is stopping me from doing that anymore and the Win7 desktop PC can't have Win11 installed without the hack Paul is talking about. Trivial to buy or build a new desktop for it and the cost is irrelevant.

While I can do that, I choose not to and would continue to have two large screens and an external wireless keyboard and mouse and do like the touch screen stuff for some things on my convertable laptop which is running Win11. I also prefer to read kindle books on the desktop system just because I prefer the ergonomics and the much bigger screen than the laptop. I would have to upgrade both of those to have the touch screens.

I just prefer the large screens for reading kindles and for streaming free to air broadcast TV programs. I dont like a real TV for that. I play freecell pro on one screen while the streamed stuff is on the other screen and is easy to pause when I do something complicated in freecell pro and being able to use a touch screen is handy and much easier to read the subscripts when I need to do that.

I do use the laptop when bottling the beer and finding what I want in the year or more supply of beer in the room used to store the beer.

Still deciding whether to have another desktop or to hack the Win11 install so it will run on the current one.

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Rod Speed

Wanna spell that slow out in more detail ?

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Rod Speed

Which components would you keep? You might be able to changed the processor and motherboard but you could need a new windows licence unless you can persuade Microsoft that the old one broke. I am not convinced that Windows 11 is an improvement on Windows 10 for domestic customers.

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Michael Chare

People with such devices are already warned about induction hobs - which only work when the pans are on them - and used to be warned about the very low levels of shop security systems. The power levels used for car charging are bound to have effects aroudn the vehicle - just where visitors have to walk past.

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SteveW

I've not used a floppy disk for many years. I do still use CDs and DVDs though - mainly to rip them to our home server - keeping the physical disks as a backup.

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SteveW

The cheapest new licenses don't cost much.

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chop

If you want to recycle the SATA SSD drives or if you had NVMe "stick" SSD drives, those could be reused.

The motherboards may have six SATA ports. These can be arranged as three stacks of two when you review motherboard pictures. If you buy a Dell, it might have four SATA ports.

Your SSDs will help, because of their zero seek time.

Having the absolutely highest bandwidth, that might help when loading a bloated game. But for a lot of other purposes, these aren't all that different. Windows Defender will still take its sweet time, even if the drive is blinding fast.

SATA III = 450MB/sec , zero seek time (no heads to move)

NVMe PCIe Rev 5 = 12,000MB/sec , zero seek time (no heads to move) 14,000MB/sec <=== when they get the flash I/O running fast enough, having trouble yielding the flash chips

A more typical NVMe PCIe Rev3 (the sort practical people own), have reads at 3,500MB/sec or so. Writes can be a bit slower. Since modern drives use "SLC cache mode", during extended writes, the flash based drives can also run slower (even the 12000 one slows down). If you only had to write a 10GB file, that will work at full speed.

The motherboard can have room for three NVMe sleds. The slot next to the processor, can be one standards version faster than the other two slots. You put your primo NVMe next to the processor.

NVMe can also be mounted on plugin cards. They could even have done that from the very beginning... but they didn't. And that was to cheese out on expansion slots. When you see one of those for dirt cheap, there is a gotcha, and you have to read the fine print about what machines the dirt cheap one will run in.

The reason you can't put NVMe on plugin cards, on an old PC, is the BIOS lacks the code module to boot from it. And using an NVMe as "just a data drive", isn't nearly as attractive. On average, you won't find too many people using the plugin card carriers.

One company makes an NVMe RAID card... with boot capability (there is a config EEPROM onboard with boot code module). But the carrier card costs as much as an entire motherboard, so only hot rodders can afford one. You could for example, stick one of those in your old PC. That would be a way to add blazing fast storage, to an older PC (not that it helps all that much). It would be for bragging about benchmarks. A SATA III SSD is frequently good enough for boosting daily performance levels. But since the slot is sitting there, even a low capacity NVMe could be added as the boot drive. Up to you, as per your budget. Using the GPU inside the CPU, can shave a bit of cost off the new build, especially if you're not a gamer.

Not a lot of other kit, may work out for recycling into the new machine. On my new setup, I got to keep the hard drive :-)

The DDR5 memory is a departure from how the previous stuff worked. It's like two channels of memory on the one DIMM. But the benefit of the doubling of the number of channels, is not apparent in the benchmarks. DDR5 might pay off when you get to the 6000 level or so. And that stuff is more expensive. My build used DDR4 to save a bit of money. The DDR5 also has its own power supply circuit onboard (so fewer gubbins next to the slot area).

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Paul

The only failure type that is really bad, is when the ATX PSU overvolts and burns a lot of hardware.

There was a 200W power supply in some eMachines, the

5V would zoom up to 9V and the hard drive, optical drive, keyboard and mouse would fry. That was considered at the time to be, um, bad :-)

Modern equipment doesn't do that, and your machine will have sufficient OVP to shut off drive to the switching transistors if the voltage is going out of bounds. Only if you had bought a "bargain" ATX supply at one quarter of the normal price, would you be taking any sort of chance on that.

The only reason I have a new build here, is the motherboard failed on the old one, and I couldn't locate a "new" replacement motherboard of the same model. All the hard drives were unharmed and everything has since been cloned and moved to another machine. The original drives from that machine are just sitting there.

It *is* possible for a motherboard to damage the data interface on a SATA drive. That can happen if a regulator on the motherboard, feeding the Southbridge, its output rises too high. The Southbridge is what feeds the SATA connectors. But that's a pretty obscure failure, and motherboard-design-specific.

The ATX Power Supply does not make all the working voltages. It makes the "major" rails. But locally required voltages, those can be made by small chips on the motherboard. There could be half a dozen circuits of that type on the motherboard, providing currents as high as five amps to a load. The Southbridge for example, has five different voltages feeding it.

As long as you make a backup image of your system drive once in a while, you won't lose everything.

Paul

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Paul

Thanks for this detailed explanation. I don't follow it all unfortunately, not being an IT man. However, it sounds to me that as my existing PC does what is needed, I should retain it (with an active backup programme) unless and until I need a new one.

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Scott

I think I would trust my year 2000 computer to last 25 years.

That's because portions of it run at relatively low power levels.

What is weird, is these designers know their stuff, yet every once in a while, they do stupid stuff. For example, one user got out an infrared camera, scanned the motherboard, and found one of the tiny regulator chips running at 100C. That's not really a good idea, and the designer must have known that was going on. When regulators have the right form factor, you put a heat sink on something that hot.

That's why the circuits around the CPU socket have those metal heatsinks on them. The designer knows they get hot. They put on the heatsinks. And some of the modern heatsinks are dreadful designs (they're "art work", not heatsinks). Your era of machine, they were still making proper heatsinks.

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As long as the machine isn't holding you back, I'd just continue to use it.

When Web browsers act up, it's the way the web page is coded that matters, and if they want to freeze your browser, they can. A faster computer cannot fix that, because they can freeze a fast processor just as easily as a slow processor. Which reminds me, I have to go off and clean my browsers...

Paul

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Paul

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