click on bids
click on "show automatic bids"
click on each of the two low feedback score bidders "fighting it out"
whilst pushing the early bidder up.
see the changing of successive bid increments by +/- 50p trying to
feel for the early bidders max bid?
I haven't bothered to look at these bids but I will observe that in
general, things would be lot simpler if people just bid their maximum
and then sat back rather than fannying around upping their bids.
Depends. I often put in a minimum bid on something. If someone else
gets it, then as a collector I'm just happy that someone has it and it
hasn't ended up in the bin.
And there'll probably be another along next year.
Have you sold anything on Ebay?
If you list something for sale by auction & no one has made a bid
towards the end of the listing it is possible to end the listing early
to avoid selling at a very low price. However if there has been a bid
then you have to let the auction run its course.
also used by shillers using low start prices to save themselves
listing fees "99p start" with an early/immediate covering bid, if no-
one shows up by 25 hours before "auction" end there will regularly be
another bid by same "bidder" to insure against the item going too
One can if one dares, push this covering bid up (like a shiller
The shiller, naturally, will never pay for the goods and sale will be
cancelled for some flaky reason and no-one will be any the wiser...
Agree I put my Maximum bid a sniping tool on my phone, and leave it at
that, I win or I don't .... advantage is I don't get tempted to increase
at last moment.
With more & more people using sniping s/w ... there can be significant
volume of bids in last 5 sec
The way eBay auctions are run, that's true. I'm quite surprised they
haven't experimented with different types of auction, e.g. a single
sealed bid format, where no-ones' bid is revealed until the end, no
point in people trying to create multiple accounts as they'd out-bid
themselves, it would make genuine bidders *think* what they were willing
to pay for an item, rather than see if they could sneakily get something
cheap ... you only get a bargain if nobody else wants it.
True. I'd have mentioned bidding late if I thought it was relevant.
There is a vague connection (but no more than that) in that if you bid
*very* late there's no time to up your bid. Using sniping software is a
good idea if you're a frequent bidder and you're used to the software
and you're keeping it up to date in line with changes to the eBay site.
Otherwise a late manual bid might be more reliable.
Yes but you won't want to top up your bid at that point - because that's
when you *do* bid the maximum amount you're prepared to pay (assuming
it's not already above that point); then win or lose you're guaranteed
to be happy.
If you bid early, how can you *possibly* end up paying less than if you
Assuming I'm able to bid in the dying seconds, I would never bid more
than once on an auction.
Actually I *never* want to top up my bid at any point, ever.
I *always* bid the maximum I'm prepared to pay. No exceptions.
I don't know why you're banging on about timing, which I agree is
important, but I never mentioned it because it's not relevant to the
point I was making. There are good reasons for bidding late, but
sometimes it's not possible, and I bid early. Regardless of timing, I
only bid once, I recommend that others do the same, and that's the
(only) point I was making.
That was the point. The OP described a situation where bidders were
"fighting it out". That's what I was responding to. If you only place
one bid, there is no "fighting it out". *Regardless* of when you place
That's simplistic and irrelevant. There is no "fighting it out" if you
only bid once, whether that bid is placed early or late. That's all I'm
saying. Yes, timing is important, but it's not what I was talking about.
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