OT carrier bag charge

Update. When checking out, both Tesco and Morrisons use the same keypad idea that both they [and Sainsbury ] use when buying loose rolls. Basically "how many new carrier bags have you bought" - with a keypad [but including a zero option] and an enter key. Although unlike with rolls there's presumably no weight check as you might fill the bags afterwards. Asda have been trailing the same thing on one particular till for months now so presumably they'll be the same.

I eat four large eggs per week. Always free range. Formerly from Sainsbury until the yolks started breaking. Then from Lidl, around the corner from Sainsbury around 50p less. Until those yolks started breaking as well and there was a break in supply. None on the shelves. Tried Aldi instead, definitely no broken yolks for the same price.

Continuity of supply. Don't the dopes at Lidl and elsewhere realise that punters will carry on buying a slightly inferior product week after week, maybe even at an uncompetitive price, from the same shop simply out of habit and convenience ? Run out of stock and they will be forced to go elsewhere where they may find a slightly better product. Or the same at a cheaper price. Which they'll now buy from there from now on.

michael adams

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IIRC we once only had our own proper shopping bags available.

In message , Tricky Dicky writes

The carrier bag charge was introduced a year ago in Scotland, yet our home deliveries still arrive in carrier bags, which do not appear on the receipt. The delivery chap does ask for bags to be returned for recycling, but is quite happy for us to keep all, some or none.

In message , Tim Streater writes

They will (or should) bring the crates into your kitchen if you want. so you can unload directly onto the table or whatever.

I don't think I've ever had a missing or wrong item with deliveries, though I suppose it must happen occasionally. but refunds etc. are always easily arranged.

So far Waitrose and Tesco have said they will charge a flat rate 40p per delivery for the bags if you have it in bags. Ocado are charging 5p per bag, but will refund 5p for every bag you return (they will take other bags, not just their own)

Could these be the answer to plastic bags mountains?

This will reduce the number of deliveries that a driver can get through because he will will have to wait for each customer who opts for bagless delivery to empty all the shopping on to tables - and maybe to check each item against the receipt.

Why can't supermarkets change over to biodegradable paper bags for home delivery where you have no option to use bags for life as you would in a store.

How will shops distinguish between a carrier bag that you take in and keep reusing, and one that they supply: will they have cameras to watch what people do at the self-service checkouts?

The whole policy is ill-conceived and seems regard lack of waste as being more important than inconveniencing people. What is needed is more education to reuse bags for other purposes: we don't throw any carrier bags away empty - we use them all for collecting rubbish in the kitchen bin, either for going in the dustbin or our compost heap, and only through them away after they have served this second use. We'll have to start buying bags to throw our rubbish away in, instead of being able to use supermarket carriers for doing this.

Expecting people to remember to take a bag for life with them every time they might nip into a shop for something, even unplanned, is absurd.

Go to a small shop as they are still able to give them for free. Brian

Transfer of bacteria from uncooked meat to other food and to containers. I saw something in the paper about it. Oh here we are

Bill

Yes but no-one's perfect.

Bill

If you had actually seen them you would not have said that.

There are no council estates round here.

I don't know.

Ironically the modern plastic supermarket bags *are* biodegradable now (after a fashion even in total darkness). The disintegrate into brittle flakes after about 10 years judging by some in my loft.

Old ones tend to be very folded, creased and scruffy after a couple of uses. We prefer a fold flat crate for a large shop. No bags at all.

It is a case of "doing" something for the sake of it.

You can carry one of the cheapo "5p" ones folded in a coat pocket.

It will be very interesting to see if the 80% saving materialises!

Or trailer parks seem to attrack the same type of person.

It's easy enough to roll them up into a ball about the size of an egg. Then the handle goes over it and stops it unravelling. We have two or three kicking round the car permanently.

They disintegrate pretty quickly outdoors in the sun. Or rather become useless as bags. But don't disappear into nothing.

Well, as contractor I've worked on many mobile home sites. The gardens are beautifully kept.

Aren;t they on maintance contracts we have blocks of houses were this appli es it's usually a rip off service charge of £50+ per month.

They end up as fine particulates. It isn't ideal but they are nowhere near as bad for the environment as the greens would have you believe. Modern ones disintegrate much faster than that in UV from sunlight.

The plastic things that hold beer 6-packs are much worse for sea life.

They are fairly inert once shredded. Though they are unsightly as ornaments on rural hawthorn hedges where road warriors tend to throw them. I honestly can't see things changing as 5p is nothing to them.