Hmmm, I'm spoiled for choice. Arthurs Chandlery is the furthest one from me at 26 miles, pity I don't have a boat ;) https://www.google.co.uk/maps/search/yacht+chandlers+hampshire/@50.8383119,-1.4579877,11z
Ah, can't see the mistakes or omissions then I guess. No wonder that (once again) you don't 'get' the problem.
And another massive assumption on your part.
It does? One replay saying then can't help. I'm guessing that you would assume (as you seem good at doing that) that if I turned up in person they would suddenly / magically be able to conjure up things that may not actually exist any more?
And I'm sure you will continue to do so, never actually 'getting it'.
In this case all I'm asking for is online retailers to make it clear what they are selling, so that I can make the decision they are probably not capable of making.
Thanks for playing though. ;-)
Cheers, T i m
I guess that's a disadvantage of living in North London ... not that near the sea (atm anyway). ;-(
;-)
Mum (88) is off to the IoW and has offered (as she's on holiday and has the time) to have a mooch in any chandlery she happens past and ask for me. For her to be able to help it would still require the chandlery having the datasheets for any offering or a vernier caliper and the skills to use them to be able to measure the dimensions that are important to me.
eg, Key considerations:
Rowlock socket: Main tube OD, 1" Retaining hole centres, 2-1/4"
(Compatible)Rowlock crutch: Jaw opening around 45mm ID, 60mm
Both ideally in white or at least the same colour for both components. Back socket with white crutch would be the next best thing (black rowlocks aren't so easy to see in the grass on in the boat in the dark).
Should be pretty easy eh?
Cheers. T i m
In message snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com, T i m snipped-for-privacy@spaced.me.uk> writes
I'll say again, and call me old fashioned, but a proper job would be to replace these biodegradable rowlocks with decent galvanised metal ones, and tie them to the boat using the hole provided in the bottom of the shank. You don't want to be faffing around on the grass or on a green slime covered slipway with a rising tide in the dark. This was the standard in my youth, and my grandfather's youth, and it still works perfectly. Our rowlocks are at least 70 years old and have survived seawater, light and air.
I was only being facetious about converting to sculling over the stern, but skilled scullers have to be seen to be believed. No rowlocks to scrape when coming alongside, at least as fast as rowing, and a continuous motion unlike the stop-start action of rowing. There are snags, of course, and I never progressed beyond starter level.
The only boat we have ever had that used metal rowlocks is the 14' rowing skiff and that's because:
1) It's a purely rowing boat and so the only means of propulsion (other than paddling it etc). 2) It's a proper rowing boat and has sculls, therefore you might be able to overpower plastic rowlocks and so not really a 'choice' as such. 3) They are 'in keeping' with that sort of 'traditional' boat.You can't do that in this case Bill because although the sockets themselves are open ended, the moulding they go into on the moat, aren't. However, some metal rowlocks also have a 'neck' that could take a lanyard of some sort so the principal is the same.
Agreed.
But how quiet are they? I ask because many metal rowlocks I've used seem the clank and clunk, not something you generally get with plastic? Also, do they 'lock in' like plastic rowlocks do?
Understood. And as I mentioned, whilst I'm certainly not 'skilled', I am a reasonable canoe / kayak paddler so know how to handle a blade in water in general. Not like the people you often see 'windmilling' down the river in the hire boats. ;-(
I'm not sure that would apply in all cases though would it? I can't see anyone moving our skiff as fast with one scull compared with two long sculls?
There is that, so would therefore have more effect on a boat that didn't carry plenty of way (wey / weigh?) (like our skiff). ;-)
;-)
I have noticed they do metal rowlock sockets with nylon inserts (that still take a metal crutch) that might tick all the boxes, other than the money off the bottom line when sorting a boat to sell? ;-(
We must remember this is 'just' an 8' pram dinghy and therefore most likely to be used as a tender to a bigger boat on a mooring (50 yards traveled) or as a fun / fishing boat etc. Most likely it would be used with an outboard of some sort, rather than seen as a real long distance rowboat etc?
Cheers, T i m
Probably not, but don't let that stop you.
sculling meas using oars. The meaning is not restricted to single oar use
In message <qb983a$am2$ snipped-for-privacy@dont-email.me, The Natural Philosopher snipped-for-privacy@invalid.invalid writes
That's correct, but it depends who you are talking to and what sort of boat you are talking about. Context is all.
Sculling to me and my friends means using a single oar in a propeller type motion over the back of a boat.
It almost certainly means something else to someone living in Cambridge.
In message snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com, T i m snipped-for-privacy@spaced.me.uk> writes
Yes, and I'm really just chatting rather than being practical.
I have had 3, 8ft pram dinghies over the years. Clinker, plywood, then fibreglass. I got the first at age 12ish. Dad and I went, with some camping gear, to pick it up at Sandwich and we rowed it back round to Herne Bay over a day or two. I then had to be plastered up until the carpal tunnel subsided.
Later, it was stolen, but we saw it on the deck of a sailing barge moored unattended in Faversham Creek. We contacted the police and were assigned an officer to come on our larger boat at night to investigate. There followed a tidal midnight torchlight trip down the creeks. On arrival, we were given lengthy, very strict instructions and ordered not to touch the barge at all. The officer went on deck, confirmed that my name and address was painted in the hidden place, and lowered the dinghy down for us to tow back to the mooring. I think he enjoyed his night out.
All three dinghies eventually used outboards and acted as tenders to bigger boats, but the oars and galvanised rowlocks were vital with a Seagull. The last two had sails and dagger boards as well, and were great fun in that mode.
I have other stories, but wouldn't want to become a total bore.
Hehe. I'm not sure anything will stop our Jimmy being fascinated by / with me (bless).
Cheers, T i m
Is the right answer (as always of course).
Quite.
;-)
Cheers, T i m
Carry on. ;-)
There is nothing so 'solid' as a nice clinker built boat.
Ouch.
I bet he did. Makes a change from the 'routine' stuff. ;-)
We had several BS's and none of them ever missed a beat. I think the key to that was the right quality oil and the right mix. A bit too rich and idle for too long and you could foul a plug.
I know. I have spent many a happy hour sat in the bottom of a small dinghy under sail and just pottering about (mainly on the Norfolk Broads).
Never. ;-)
Cheers, T i m
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