OT: Before you buy that new EV.....

Here's a few FACTS against all this anti EV bullshit:

Why not? I've got a stir fry pan that claims to be suitable for induction. That's the same as a wok unless you're Chinese. I don't use it as (a) the non-stick is worn out and (b) I don't have an induction hob.

I have a vitroceramic hob with halogen elements. You can just wipe it clean but it's a bit more difficult if food is burnt on. You can use a mildly abrasive cleaner or a (special) scraper.

What a lot of doo-doo, "Stop burning stuff?." where do they think electricy is generated from?. Reminds me of a lecture about the Internet I attended in the early 1990's.

We are still reliant on burning stuff but we’re burning less every year. At this moment only 32% is coming from burning stuff.

Tim

And also consider this. In three years I’ve done 50000 miles at an average of under 2p per mile.

Tim

Are you counting the amount of Canadian Trees that Drax imports.?

Burning trees is carbon neutral - less CO2 is released than the tree captured during its lifetime.

and the transport of those trees is also carbpn neutral? And where did the lost carbon go?

Sorry, 37% including that.

Tim

But probably not if you have to ship them from Canada! Fecking madness.

Tim

We once had a ceramic hob. That _was_ a **** to clean - a sheet of white glass, which ran up to a couple of hundred C in normal operation. Anything spilt immediately burnt.

We've had gas, and radiant ring.

We don't deep fry, and nothing else will take the bottom of the saucepan much above boiling point. The hob only gets hot because there's a got saucepan on it - so usually the hob isn't hot enough to burn anything on. I can normally just grab a damp cloth, and give it a wipe when I spill something.

As for the cost? Well, it's a couple of kW peak, and on for under half an hour a day average. A unit is 27p average. I shan't worry about 27p per day.

Andy

Does that include the depreciation cost of the vehicle?

Andy

Just the fuel cost. Shoulda said. As to depreciation, I think all cars do that. No plans to sell for a long time.

Tim

Lets see, current 'best of' stats are 80kWh for about 200 miles.

At 40p a unit, that's £32 for 200 miles, or about what I pay for Diesel

Does the 2p cost take into account any investment that you may have made in things such as solar or is all the charging electricity coming from the grid.

I'm sure that the next Government will seriously look at taxing EVs to make up for the lost fuel duty on petrol/diesel.

It's probably the golden time for EVs with all their favourable tax exclusions but how long will that last when the market share of EVs gets larger nd there is no off peak cheap electricity and the Government and local councils start losing the tax revenues. I wonder if things like the low emission area charges will morph into road toll areas once the "authorities" get used to considering it as a source of revenue rather than an environmental measure.

Or char peppers. And in our case, we needed a few new pans. But otherwise, much better than gas, and much, much better than normal electric.

I think on balance that induction is probably the best hob ever for people who cook domestically and like an uber clean kitchen.

I suspect that professional caterers will stick with gas because its instant and does a little bit more.

I've got ceramic hobs and an Aga. I'm OK with that.

Electricity from the grid, but cheap rate night time stuff. Now this does make it a bit harder to compare because you don’t get “owt for nowt” and my peak rate is higher but my average energy cost is just 15p per kWhr. If I were to recalculate at my average power cost it would be about 4p per mile.

I’m sure they will. Why wouldn’t they, it’s what they do. ;-)

Road pricing might be one way to raise revenue. Norway’s road tolls are done with ANPR cameras on major roads. Seems to work well.

Tim