Places that contain a communal area like a kitchen, rest room etc; but are within a community structure, like for instance a club or our allotment do need a bit of organisation for 'cleaning duties'. Since there is little of a management hierarchy to *order* people to do a weeks cleaning and maintenance.
How might things be organised to perhaps *shame* some dodgers into doing a turn sometimes. But to try to do so without causing any unpleasantness amongst those in the community ?
Increase subs the following year for shirkers?
The real question is do you want these people in the 'club'?
It does depend on age, but typically nothing works except punishing them. F ind something they will not appreciate not having if they don't do it, and arrange a rota & stick to it. You do of course have to get that voted in fi rst or it'll never fly. It all has to be pre-agreed.
NT
In message , john west writes
Hah! It takes all sorts to make up the human race.
One system that seems to work is a discounted membership fee where a reduction is exchanged for managed duties. If they don't work they pay the full fee.
Published rota? At least other members would learn who the shirkers are.
Rather than a public flogging, scatter grass seed on their vegetable patch.
I dunno why but public flogging doesn't seem to go down well these days They need to miss out on something if they don't do their bit.
NT
Compulsion does not always work with irascible oldies better by far for someone to say, hey, come and give us a hand
If you find a way do share. there is a room we and other groups rent, all too often crumbs all over the floor, doors not closed securely and the fridge is almost ready to walk out the door on its own. Brian
This. The local archery club has a similar system that works with little friction: The membership fees is discounted, and the paid excess refunded at the end of the year, if the member does his x hours work.
This also addresses the problem of those physically unable to work, only able to work at times when there is no work to be done etc.
Thomas Prufer
Without some form of agreed procedures it ain't going to happen. You need to avoid making it a chor as well, having to do a whole week and/or a lot of things turns it into a chore and it won't happen. Try to split tasks so doing the crockery/cutlry has two people (so thay can chat, makes the time go quicker), one with hands in sink, one with T towel drying and putting away. Someone else collects the crockery/cutlry, someone else generally tidies, etc.
If you have one of the "irascable oldies" who tells it like it is
*and* does their turn, so it can't be turned back on them. They could say in a loud voice, when one of the known shirkers is due to do something "John, looks like your turn to do the ... today", so everyone knows who should be doing that task...But without general agreement on tasks and frequency (which depends on how many people are involved and how often the meetings occur) nothing will change. There also needs to be a "public record" of who did what. So "John" can't shirk by simply not turning up or "have another comitment" when it's his turn to do something.
An agreed roster of whose turn it is, kept in a prominent place? So it is obvious to all if someone is shirking?
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