Oh dear. How sad. Never mind

Green inspired propaganda. Its turned his mind to a mush of muesli

The Left can often tell you where you want to go. But it is totally useless at actually getting you there.

Sure we need to learn to do without coal oil and gas as much as possible. But windmills are a bloody waste of f****ng time.

We had nukes. Cost effective reliable and stable.

Just not something you could whip up in a year and be making obscene profits out of funded by gullible consumers, with a corrupt government lobby shouting its virtues..

No, anybody claiming any knowledge of energy supply in the UK knows that the solution on current technology is about 85% nuclear, 10% gas and a few smidgeons of hydro

And not a damned windmill in sight.

When did the fundamental need to keep a house warm become such a complex topic? My parent's coalhouse was always kept well stocked.

Of course. Nuclear and gas will give a reliable and cheap supply.

But ask yourself why we’re paying 25p/kWh when say 10p will give the generator a profit.

And for the average home, a battery will never pay for itself over its lifetime.

Interesting web site here:

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Here’s the honest maths:

A typical 5–10 kWh battery costs around £5,000 installed (range: £1,500–£10,000).

It saves roughly £130 per year by letting you use your own solar electricity instead of buying from the grid. At that rate, it would take about 38 years to break even — but the battery will only last 5–15 years.

A battery makes more financial sense if you have high electricity use, work from home, drive an electric vehicle, or use storage heaters with a time-of-use tariff.

If you’re buying before 1 April 2027, you pay 0% VAT. After that, VAT reverts to 20% — adding roughly £1,000 to the cost of a £5,000 battery.

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Plenty more at the link given.

On 24/07/2026 13:07, AnthonyL wrote: Big snip>>

Hmm. I remember my Mother's coal heap being a major issue when a visiting traction engine needed some.

Also the morning my hot water bottle (on the floor at the time) froze.>

In the case of nuclear, when exactly?

Privatised supply and an industry that exists to feed corporate wealth. And anyway, I don't pay anything like 25p - more like half that.

A lot of things don't make sense on that site, not least the 'honest maths'.

Also, there's mention of off peak import, but it's not included in any calculation for some reason. That's one of the main money (and environmental) savers battery-wise.

Isn't it about time they have sorted out fusion reactors? We've been waiting decades.

Never, if the Greens get their way,

That’s why the EU imposed a Renewables Obligation, so that Siemens could coin it in making windmills, with no actual performance specified, such a carbon reduction.

Current variable tariff on DD is circa 28p/kWh.

You weren't around in the 1970s then?

I think this comes from the saving of around 900kWh at 12.9p = around £117.

Obviously not!

We had a coke-burning stove in the lounge giving lots of heat and hot water via thermo-siphon, and a battery-powered 9” B&W TV for evening entertainment. We never missed an episode of M*A*S*H…

"Annual battery saving = Solar you’d otherwise export × (Import rate − Export rate)"

"The remaining 1,800 kWh would be exported to the grid — unless you have a battery."

"AI draft model: qwen3.6:35b"

No they also want more pumped storage, more generators in rivers, more wave generation, more tidal generation and when you add in some future unobtainium you have the long term solution. There never seems to be any understanding of the scale of the problem nor the cost to implement all of these sticking plaster solutions.

It may be solved by batteries one day, when the kind of batteries that E. E. Smith's Lensmen used are finally invented, they needed half the output of a 20th century power station to charge...

But that needs some major advances in physics, I doubt that chemical batteries can ever reach the kind of storage needed to be practical.

It will be interesting to see if the government's AI surveillance data centres will run on renewables. They'll just need a big UPS.

Nothing new in sticking plaster. When I left the bearing industry in

When people got tired of lugging coal and emptying ash.,