New Wheeler Dealers

[Mr Pounder Esquire]

I caught the program on Sky or somewhere last night and was not too impressed. I watch very little telly but when channel flipping I used to watch bits of the old show. I know that the old show was just a show, but I never found it to be boring. I thought that the mechanic, Ant, had absolutely no charisma, Ed China did have that. The cockney cunt, Mike Brewer seemed to be groveling to him. Quite disappointing. I won't be bothering again. Forgive cross post to uk.d-i-y.

[JoeJoe]

I also caught a few minutes of the new show when channel flicking - my thoughts were exactly the same: sleeker, faster, 100% scripted (I know, it was always scripted, but it didn't feel that way), and with a lot less substance. All ready for the American market then...

I will also not be watching again.

[The Natural Philosopher]

Yerah. when it strays from geeks corner to relaity TV it can naff off.

Poor old Mike. Not much else he CAN do, but Ed China can fix cars and I guess he has a damn well equipped workshop by now.

[Steve H]

You do know that he was already a very well known mechanic BEFORE he appeared on Wheeler Dealers, don't you?

[Harry Bloomfield]

The Natural Philosopher formulated the question :

I found Mike to be a tremendously annoying little cockney wide boy. Edd came across as the very down to earth capable one. What did annoy me, was that the fixing up costs at the end, were completely unrealistic. No labour costs were included, any outsourced work was often at bargain basement rates and the parts were just so easy to source.

[JoeJoe]

I think that in the later, American, version of the program they started to mention something along the lines of: "...nd 45 hours of labour" at the end as well.

[Steve H]

*bangs head against wall*

Am I the only person who 'got' the whole fecking concept?

Labour wasn't included because it was a show about the kind of fettling you could potentially do at home. Hence why Edd would sometimes say 'you can do this at home, but if you paid for it to be done it would cost up to £400'.

[The Natural Philosopher]

I would have assumed so, yes. As the series progressed his workshop got better abnd better kit.

[The Natural Philosopher]

Its a 'reality' show.

Not how to fix up cars and make a profit.

Compare 'Fantom works' with 'overhaulin'. Fantomworks actially really fixed cars on a budget. 'Overhaulin' was unlimited budget with a hot chick presenter.

[Steve H]

I'm guessing it was the show's workshop, as he was constructing motorised sofas and bathtubs way before WD came along.

[Harry Bloomfield]

Steve H wrote on 07/01/2018 :

They fixed them up to sell them on, pointless unless ALL of the costs are included.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

They fix then up to make a TV programme. Not the other way round.

[Graham T]

£2000 for a blowover? I really am out of touch.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

If you start out with perfect bodywork and merely want to change the colour using a cheap paint, 2000 quid might do it. But of course would have a limited life before the edges start fraying.

But if you want something approaching original on an older car, you can multiply that a few times.

[johannes]

I really liked the programme and Edd; you got a lot of information about problems with certain cars, problems which would get ordinary people stumped. E.g. the accelerator problem on the Masarati with almost build in failure after certain miles, and would cost a fortune to fix unless well connected as Edd.

[Cursitor Doom]

A bloke near me got his Bristol 411 *totally* re-painted to a very high standard; it was a brilliant job they'd made of it. But it did cost him

10k.

[Steve H]

Edd obviously knows how to use the Internet. Because that's how I usually find people to fix stuff like that. There is no special insider knowledge required!

[Steve H]

So how do you value YOUR time if tinkering with something as a bit of a hobby? That was the whole point of the bloody show! It's like pulling teeth trying to explain this to people.

[Cursitor Doom]

Anstead is an ex-copper, apparently. He must have thrown that career in bloody early or else he got sacked. Now he's re-invented himself as a car expert. There are some unaccountable holes in his CV. Anyone know a bit more?

[Huge]

It depends if I'm doing it because it amuses me and I'm enjoying myself. In which case I don't cost my time at all. OTOH, if something is a PITA, I cost it at my consultancy rate from when I was working.