Thanks John. Seems to be a great wee machine for the money. What also impressed me is not one screw slipped. Although that could be to do with the new bits I was using that came with the Makita.
I agree - not much slippage. The only time it does slip is if I don't put some pressure on the driver to get (and keep) the bit in the screw head. That applies with any halfway decent bit - i.e. one that is not worn out or damaged.
That sound is its normal driving mode and isn't a sign that the driver is struggling when under any load - and, yes, it's very noisy. Unlike a conventional hammer drill/driver, it is hammering radially rather than axially. The only criticism I have with the TD020DSF is it isn't "soft start", so you need to ensure you have the screw firmly located in the bit before applying power. That's when I find my thumb won't reach the drive button...
Don't discharge a Lithium cell right down as that will severly reduce their life - once may be all you'll get... You are supposed to keep them charged and they will benefit from many small charges rather then one big one - the opposite of NiCd. They should have a circuit to prevent them being discharged too far, but I haven't looked at what's in my Makita.
I use mine like any other rechargeable - until the performance drops off. Then let the charger sort it out - it's a Makita not some B&Q crap.
It's news to me you have to take special precautions with those batteries
- aren't they common on most phones these days?
Yes - phones will stop working before the battery gets fully discharged They also recharge them correctly. In the case of a drill, you may be tempted to squeeze the last drop, or even worse, put them on an incorrect charger with a discharge cycle, if they are plug-compatible. With Li-ion, you should only use a charger designed for it.
I was always of the opinion that a recharge after use was the best tactic for long-life - at least it works for me with cameras and laptops
- and I still use a phone with a Li-ion battery that was supplied by Cellnet...
I've never been tempted to fully flatten any rechargeable as the principle is unsound - even with NiCads.
Correct for every type of battery.
You recharge your phone after each call?
Probably :-)
No, when it's down to one bar or if I'm going to be away from power.
Drill - hasn't got bars so it's recharged after a heavy session, ready for the next job, if I remember... The NiCd ones are now often getting low between uses but it's probably not worth re-celling them, since I want to justify a better model :-)
That is one of the benefits of impact drivers in general - as the torque is not sustained there is less chance of the bit slipping out of the screw - it gets chance to reset its position with each impact.
Have you tried it for removing painted/rusty screws yet? Even slotted ones?
If you have to remove a door for example, scrape the slot in the screw clean, apply lots of pressure & hit the reverse button. Not had a failure yet.
Yup. Far better than using even the best quality hand screwdriver.
I think this thread has just sorted out a Christmas present for me. Impact driver or maybe one of those ultrasonic multi saw things. Which would the panel say is the most useful?
Makita impact driver. Without a shadow of a doubt. For me, far more likely to be used very regularly. I suppose the Bosch/Fein would be indispensable when it really is needed - but I have to admit that wouldn't be very often for me. Which is why I have a Mak but not a Bosch/Fein.
(But if someone wants to buy me a Bosch/Fein for Christmas, that is OK!)
Go for the Fien. Much more expensive. ;-)
Agreed, impact driver would be used more often. The Bosch is a really handy 'solve a problem' tool which I always have in the van for those embugeration jobs, but I use the impact driver more often.
Mind you, the Bosch is an amazingly good detail sander as well, so it kills two birds with one stone.
Assuming you mean the Fein Multimaster type tools why do you call it ultrasonic?
I have both, and the Makita gets more use.
But the Makita is really a duplicate of other tools - the Fein, unique.
Just saw this:
Looks like a somewhat nice upgrade from the TD020DSE... Is 90 NM enough torque?
So if anyone was wondering what to get me for Christams... :-)
(Partner much prefers traditional Makita colours... so no joy there. :-( )
The 12v jobby I have is 135 nM IIRC. Really nice looking kit though, and not bad at £150. 90 nM is still 3 times what a 14.4v driver has.
Not a combi though.
I'm still tempted....
Not really an upgrade since the TD020 is so much smaller. That's one of its strenghts. Looks a nice bit of kit, though. But I *really* don't need any more drills. ;-)
I agree really. But the new ones do look quite compact - though it is very difficult to judge from a photo - especially with that somewhat strange pattern/effect. I would like to see them in reality.
I would like to see them in my tool bag :-)
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