Lucky escape

Aug 06, 2017 42 Replies

Last night we had an alarm up on our dishwasher due to something jamming the drain pump. I told my wife to leave it 'til the next day, as I'd been doing a lot and wasn't up to getting the machine out, drained and upended to access the pump. She ignored me and a few hours later tried it again, resulting in water pouring out over the kitchen floor and the RCD tripping.



Naturally, we mopped up the spill (while I shouted at her!) and I unplugged the machine. However every time I turned that ring back on, the RCD tripped. There was no way water could have reached the sockets (they are above the machines) and there are no junction boxes under the floor that could have got wet, so no obvious reason for the problem.



I started to unlug anything on that ring and found the tumble-dryer's moulded-on plug (dryer was not in use) badly melted and very hot. Further investigation showed the pins to be bright and clean and totally unmarked by heat. The front of the socket was also damaged, but internally was fine. It appears that the overtemperature has been on the fuse clips or their rivetted connections. While the body of the plug is badly melted and distorted, the fuseholder is blackened, charred and badly out of shape.



Both plug and socket replaced today and everything seems to be running cool.



Very odd that both events should occur simultaneously, but without the dishwasher tripping the RCD, the tumble-dryer plug could easily have started a fire - especially being close to a basket of already dried clothes.



Very lucky escape.



SteveW


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Defective Chinese plugs to blame I'll wager.

Unfortunately, the plug is now too melted for me to look for a country of origin on it.

SteveW

Never seen the point of a tumble drier. Just hang the clothes outside, or in the bathroom over the bath.

Apparently the household appliances that cause the most fires are washing machines. Saw that on the telly. I'd have gone for tumble dryers ........

Oh do f*ck off Hucker! You do not even have hot running water in your hovel. 11 cats, several parrots, no hot running water and you can't even afford to buy disinfectant. You must stink. No wonder you can't get a woman.

What you're saying doesn't make sense. Your RCD was tripping AFTER you unplugged the dishwasher. So it would have done so even if the dishwasher had not failed.

I believe he's one of those psychos that are actually "proud" of their stink.

That's the whole point. The water caused the trip in the first place, but it then wouldn't reset. Without that trip, I'd not have investigated further and found the melting plug. I still have no idea why it would not reset, as on investigation this morning, there is no problem, despite it not resetting last night with plug removed and the socket replaced with chocolate block.

Pure luck.

SteveW

So the RCD's a bit dodgy then?

Are you saying even with the tumble dryer disconnected, it still won't reset? A third problem?

En el artículo , Steve Walker escribió:

A pic would be nice for the Hall of Infamy.

So the question is, what about the dryer or its fuse got it hot? Was this one of those dodgy look alike forg4ed fuses that Watchdog have been going on about? Brian

On 06-Aug-17 11:23 PM, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: ...

That is probably because 97% of households have washing machines, but only 56% have tumble dryers. Tumble dryers could be 70% more likely to burst into flames and still not cause as many fires.

The thing is though in order to trip a system the short has to be between one pin and another, even a slight leakage can do it to earth for instance. but if it was just the fuse holder that melted it would get hot but not be anywhere near the earth pin in fact. Brian

Like a true congenital idiot he's totally immune to how people see him. ;-)

Plus many households are still not "too posh to peg out" and dry washing outside when weather permits, so the ratio of _use_ of WM/dryer is even higher

SWMBO always pegs the washing out if it's dry outside. Why would one not do that? (Assuming there's space etc)

It is quicker to put the washing into the tumble dryer.

And the washing's less likely to be nicked.

Owain

Who, or in what sort of area, would anyone want to steal washing?

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