low energy bulbs again - how low energy?

Isn't it flattering, though, to have one's posts read in such detail :-)

Thanks for posting this, Clive, I don't see original posts from that source.

Mary

No.

I know perfectly well what an "ad hominem" argument is, thanks.

You see, Dynamo Hansen, Mary and Benn *are* innumerate.

Who need Maths, when with God, it All Adds Up?

;-)

Precisely so. The Green movement gave all those who Need to Believe in Something somewhere to go once Marxism failed and God died.

It's an enormous pity, given that there is a kernel of truth and rationality in what they say.

ITYM

VA = Apparent Power

W = Real Power

either that or you are proposing a change to the first law of thermodynamics...

Let's be clear on this point. Domestic customers pay for the amount of "heat + work done" by the electrical energy they consume, not by the amount of current which flows or what power factor pertains to that current.

Rumble

On Fri, 11 Jan 2008 22:25:31 GMT someone who may be "The Medway Handyman" wrote this:-

In message , Derek Geldard writes

Or a uterus - we had the story of that in graphic details some years ago

It's why she's so fit - she has nothing left to go wrong any more

But not on the harmonics (particularly the odd ones). That leads to silly things like the neutral terminals burning off your transformers... :-)

Ho yes.... but adding de-tuning inductors to your nice shiny PF caps (as often becomes necessary on distribution systems) starts to get complex and costly. Ever priced up for a multi-stage PF correction system? The prices start to look like phone numbers. :-( AFAICT all non-PF corrected CFLs are capacitive anyway, so as a minimum you need an inductor in series with each to correct them. There are PF corrected ones available now (I don't know about UK availability though), with this built in. :-)

Hmm - might not be able to arrange that at short notice, so correction happily accepted! :-)

Correct. That's why we have kWh and not kVAh meters. ;-)

packet of smiths crisps (with proper blue salt twist) were a little too expensive at 4d

Not worth returning the bottles I guess. When I was visiting Zambia in the late 1980s you paid more for the bottle (returnable) than the contents!

When I was visiting New York I few years back, if I understood correctly everyone selling drink cans was obliged to accept returns for something like 1c per can. Not worth the average person's time, but those who would otherwise be begging would collect up all the discarded ones and return them.

If they talk to Dave he can probably give them some advice on wind turbines.

If you're talking about me you're wrong.

I have everything except a willy.

It's already gone wrong and been repaired and certified perfct.

Mary

In message , Mary Fisher writes

You said you'd killfiled me ... they never do, do they ?

Sorry, I had to have a new hd and all my kf folk escaped.

I'll do it now and thanks for reminding me.

Mary

In article , Derek Geldard writes

Plants, matching colour when printing,and IMO reading.

Yes, Janet, but even daylight is different according to season, time and weather conditions.

Mary

Obvoiusly they'll be used as weapons nowadays.

It does that's why you usually can't remove an incandescant bulb from it's holder/socket until it's been off a while. Which isn't such a problem with CFL or LEDs.