Hi all,
this is not really a DIY question but I'd like to be a bit knowledgable when I talk to the Council/Architect/structural engineer/builder or whoever...:
I'm looking at the feasibility of converting my loft space into usable (not really "liveable" but I know the BR doesn't make much of a difference) space for a study and sadly missing storage, with a permanent staircase above my existing ground-to-first floor staircase (same size and shape). I've read the building regulations about insulation, fire escapes, party walls etc., and I believe I have a relatively clear picture of what's required.
My house is end-terrace, around 100 years old, of very solid stone construction. The party wall is actually an old external wall, my house is two stories high, and the neighbour's three stories high.
The width (span) of the area I want to convert is around 2.8m, length around 7m. There are no modern "purlins/props" that would obstruct a conversion, however as the roof pitch is around 40 degrees (good slate/felt/chipboard construction) the max height on one side (towards the party wall) is only around 2m, i.e. not really suitable as it is.
However, the existing loft floor joists (very old wooden beams) are around 300mm high, and the ceiling height in the room below is around
3.2m. This would, in my opinion, give me the opportunity to do the following:- Reduce the ceiling height below to around 3.0m, gaining 20cm ceiling height in the converted loft from this alone.
- Replace the 300mm loft floor joists with laminated wood or steel beams, gaining an additional 10-20cm in addition to the above.
A space 5m long, with a 2.3m reducing to 1.9m ceiling height in the "corridor", and using the perimeter for cupboard/workdesk space (and
2.3m lost to the staircase) would be extremely acceptable indeed.The questions I have really are the following:
- My previous house in France had glued laminated joists for the attic floor, around 15cm thick with spans of 4m on one side and 4.5m on the other. This floor was actually far more stable than my next livingroom floor, by Barratt in the UK. I believe this was similar to the "Glulam" products on
- I've also seen references to "LVL" which is laminated wood, with thinner wood layers running vertically instead of horizontally, and which is supposed to be stronger. However I can't find any examples of how this is used in a loft conversion.
- I looked at one conversion example a while ago where thinner (~100mm) I-shaped steel beams (RSJ I think they were called) were used, for a longer span than mine. Again, would this be suitable for my situation and how thin could beams for a 2.8m span be?
- I also saw one newsgroup posting talking about "open core" steel beams (~3mm steel bent in a long 70mm square beam), again, would this be an option?
Note: I know that the above are questions for the structural engineer but I'm looking at "ballpark" figures before spending the first money on the next-step feasibility calculations. I've tried to use "SuperBeam" but obviously you need to know well what numbers to feed into it to get a sensible output ;-)
With regards to the material cost - I don't really care. I believe the cost of the steel or wood joists would be small compared to the overall conversion cost anyway. What I *really* want is to gain every centimeter ceiling height possible.
With regards to the roof itself, the rafters that hold the roof are
150mm thick. I believe the building regulations stipulate 50mm ventilated space between the underside of the roof and the insulation material, and that the use of a high-quality insulant (rigid phenolic/urethane) with conductivity 0.022 W/m.K between the rafters plus possibly insulated plasterboard will be enough to achieve a U-value of 0.20 W/m².K as specified by the BR. However the following two information sources don't add up:(Sigh, if "Masterbuilders" and the Building Regulations can't agree what hope is it for people like me ;-) ? )
So the question is really: with 150mm rafters, spaced around 600mm apart, how much insulation can I stuff inbetween the rafters, what type of material is the best to use, and how much ceiling space would I lose apart from the obvious 12.5mm to the plaster board due to any insulation material that I would have to put *under* the rafters?
With regards to fire regulations, I already have a top-hung large Velux around 60cm above the existing loft floor, which means even if I gain
30-40cm ceiling height it will be less than the max. 110cm in the building regulations. The new staircase would be linked with the existing staircase, looking like a "natural" continuation of the staircase from the ground floor. What confuses me a bit is the BR that appear to stipulate a 30min fire resistance, and the BR example of 9.5mm plasterboard plus 60mm mineral wool plus 12.5mm chipboard that might achieve this. My ex 2002-built Barratt house did not incorporate the 60mm mineral wool between the floors, only the plasterboard and wonky chipboard, so I wonder how Barratt homes stand up compared to the BR ;-) ... My thought would have been to make the loft an open gallery area to the stairway, so would the 30min fire resistance be irrelevant, or would it force me to scrap the "open gallery" idea???Anyway that's it for now I guess, any feedback to any of the above would be immensely appreciated...!
Thanks in advance!!!