Local Councils to be told to take waste fee-free

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At last! It is blatantly clear that part of the cause of fly-tipping is the fact that it is so difficult to dispose of waste. We used to have a council-run rubbish/recycling centre near us, then it was closed, then re-opened under a contractor, who charges £6 per car-load. But it never seems to be open, so it's impossible to make any plans to go there.

Another problem is where to dispose of used engine oil and coolant. Both are no-nos for putting down the drain. "Find a willing local garage" is the advice. No, I want to take it to a place that will accept it, rather than try to persuade an unwilling garage, with whom I do no business.

And finally, there is a collection of old gardening powders, paint, snail repellent etc in our garage. Some of it may be old enough to qualify as historical and worthy of a museum. But in order to dispose of it, whereas I would like to just put it all in a box and take it to my local waste centre, I am supposed to itemise it by description and quantity, and then call for a Hazmat lorry to come and collect it, and pay £45 for the privilege. And they wonder why people fly-tip.

Reply to
Davey
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I suspect that the majority of flytipping doesn't come from DIYers though so I can't see this having a huge impact unfortunately.

It's the tradesmen working on tight margins who will still have the incentive to flytip. I'd like to see "free" waste disposal for DIYers AND tradesmen with a turnover less that a certain amount. Of course this would have to be paid for by rates/community charge/whatever but it would be worth it to stop this appalling scourge on our countryside.

Tim

Reply to
Tim+

In my part of the world, the tips ('recycling centres') are run by a commercial firm under contract to Cornwall Council. Domestic stuff that the householder takes along in his car, is free, but they do charge for asbestos sheet (about £10 per sack) plasterboard (about £4 per sack) and rubble (not sure how much per sack, and 'rubble' has a broad description). But almost everything else is free: general waste including old tins of paint, garden chemicals, batteries of all sorts, wood, garden green waste, metal, beds and mattresses, electrical stuff, TV's, refrigerators, green garden waste, old oil, etc.

There's a separate tip for 'commercial' or 'trade' waste, where they charge by the load, AIUI, and it's not cheap.

Reply to
Chris Hogg

My local council has waste disposal centres open 7 days a week that take almost everything including paint, old engine oil, fridges, electronic goods etc. although no commercial waste allowed, which is enforced mainly on quantity of waste and type of vehicle. During busy times the queuing time to get in may be up to 30 minutes.

Reply to
alan_m

Yes when the site clearance folk came to dismantle an old asbestos garage they told me that it was the fact that so few sites were legal and that even though they double wrapped and labelled it it was still charged for. The problem is that the government imposes a land fill tax on councils so unless they stop this tax on rubbish, there will be no change The idea of the taxis for land fill to be reduced, which implies more recycling, on the face of it a good idea, but there are things that cannot be recycled that need too be rated differently and then there should be no charge. However now we have private companies involved who have to make a profit, I can see that the end result will be that if the dumper is not paying the cost will be shared by the council tax payers or more cuts in services. Brian

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Brian Gaff

All the dumps I've been to have an engine oil disposal sump.

Again - our dump (even the small one) has a special zone for chemicals.

What I've done with paint when skipping before (the skip company did not want liquid paint) is to get loads of cardboard boxes from the supermarket, and loads of newspapers and line the boxes in the garden with paper, then pour out the cans into the boxes.

Leave for a couple of days to dry then dispose of as dry waste.

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Reply to
Tim Watts

Till a lot of councils altered their conditions a lot of those Jobs done by smaller tradesmen became part DIY , The DIY bit being the waste disposal as the tradesmen left the waste for the householder to dispose of "free" and that would be reflected in the cost of the job done.

Now the there is a cost some householders are fly tipping to save money,some directly , others by employing a cheap disposal service offered by some dubious character with a flatbed. Not all householders know or care about asking to see the relevant paperwork that legitimate operators should have, other householders are just innocently unaware which has resulted in some nasty surprises when the source of the rubbish has been traced by a an envelope with an address for example and legal action has followed. Personally I would like to any vehicle involved with fly tipping seized and crushed within hours, preferably with the perpetuator in it.

G.Harman

Reply to
damduck-egg

The decoprators' merchant where i buy my painsdt also sell a paint hardening chemical.

Reply to
charles

The paint and varnishes I use seem to have it built in! Whenever I go back to a part used tin the contents are useless.

Reply to
Bob Minchin

And there's the rub. Something must be done - but no one wants to pay for it.

Reply to
Dave Plowman (News)

It should have some value in that it can be re-cycled. But with low oil prices, may not be economic.

Reply to
Dave Plowman (News)

I envy you your council! It could teach mine a thing or two.

Reply to
Davey

Then shoot or gas the pikeys.

Reply to
ARW

Many small garages burn it for heating in their boilers.

Reply to
Capitol

Not heard of that - ta :)

Reply to
Tim Watts

I'm in Devon right now and I could not believe it when the ice cream merchant in one of the Haytor rocks car parks on Dartmoor told me there were no public rubbish bins anywhere on the moor (bar maybe villages).

I counted at least 10 doggie shit bags on the ground, behind rocks, down cracks.

One of those stupid things - it would be better to let the dog shit on the ground and leave it there - or better, take a trowel, lift a divot, shove shit in and replace divot.

Dog shit bags are an utterly stupid idea compared to just leaving it, IMO, unless you are going to bother providing bins!

Could not believe Devon council are such a bunch of retarded cheapskates that they cannot be arsed to provide bins in one of the most scenic and touristy areas in the SW.

Conversely Hamshire council provide ample bins and recycling bins all over the New Forest.

Reply to
Tim Watts

Well they have at least not to make a loss, otherwise they go bust. The council is not in that position.

Reply to
Tim Streater

They are subcontracted by the council to run the site, TUPE over the staff etc, so the profit should be from that that, not on raking a few extra quid from everyone trying to get rid of a tub of rubble etc.

Reply to
Andy Burns

as I understand it, while the operation of the sites is contracted out, it is the County Council that sets the fees for the disposal of certian categories of waste.

Reply to
charles

Store the cans upside down for a day to make a seal.

Bill

Reply to
Bill Wright

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