Knives.

See this failing government want to have knives bought on line collected in person. Presumably to prevent kids buying them.

How does a kid buy things online? Or rather pay for them?

Or is this just another knee jerk reaction to a serious problem?

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Dave Plowman (News)
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I find it hard to believe that a person who claims knowledge of such a vast range of subjects can have failed to see - or find online in a matter of minutes - ways a person under 18 can buy knives online so I can only think you were casting around for an excuse to make yet another OT, political, gratuitously insulting, and boring post.

Reply to
Robin

An 11 year old can have a bank account with a debit card that can be used online.

Reply to
Nightjar

Spot on. Dave's jerking knee bigotry ("Tories Bad, Labour Good") is, as you say, OT, gratuitously insulting, boring and generally wrong. And no "OT" in the Subject so we can killfile them. (Dave's already killfiled here).

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Huge

It used to be only "adult" things that children couldn't buy. Now it's things mainly used by children (knives and glue).

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Max Demian

using your stolen credit card details!

nothing new there then...

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John Rumm

Acid too it seems. I remmeber buying acid from bearmans in leytonstone in the early 70s for my chemisty set.

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whisky-dave

You are, of course, aware that in some cases a "child" is someone under 18.

So under certain legislation you can have sex, get married, join the forces and kill people, but you can't photograph each other in the nude.

More knee jerk legislation to show that the government is "doing something" with no real provision for enforcement.

Apart from blaming 3rd parties after the fact.

Hmph!

Dave R

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David

So just why are you wasting your time replying to such a topic if you consider it OT?

Apart from never missing the opportunity to make a political point, of course.

But it is good to see just how easily the right wingers on here can be baited. They don't bother answering a valid point - just jump to defend their beliefs.

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Dave Plowman (News)

Who defended what beliefs?

And I still don't see why you didn't just do some research - eg read The Guardian on the subject - before displaying your ignorance as well as your prejudice.

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So do you reckon that Scottish Ministers were guilty of knee jerk reactions? Or are you willing to admit you went off half-cocked?

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Robin

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Ah - right. So some extra poorly thought out legislation will prevent a company doing something which was illegal before anyway?

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Oddly, I'm one of those who think legislation which isn't/ can't be enforced is worse than no legislation at all.

But you carry on in your ivory tower. Where any law works perfectly.

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Dave Plowman (News)

Good for you. But

(a) how do you know the legislation will fall into that category? and

(b) did you criticise in the same way the many provisions introduced by the Blair/Brown administrations which fell into to that camp? It was long a part of real politics but they took the art to new heights.

That's another assertion you make without offering any evidence.

I have in fact no opinion on the effectiveness of the proposed legislation because I have not seen the details of what is proposed nor the evidence gathered in the work over recent years. My starting position is one of low expectations because legislation to change behaviour - especially criminal behaviour - is notoriously difficult. But I also don't doubt that the Opposition and minority parties would make the government's life hell if they did nothing on the matter.

And I am - as so often - puzzled by your position. You start off not even knowing that children can in practice buy knives online. So you were patently also ignorant of the pressure for changes over several years. Yet you still harp on about knee-jerk reactions and poorly thought out legislation.

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Robin
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It's really simple. If the Tories are for it then Dave is against it, even if it's something Labour previously proposed. He's just like the retarded Labour politician on WatO criticising the Tories for doing something (increasing education spending) Labour are for. Lefties see the world in black and white; if you're not for them, you're against them. It's one of the defining characteristics of the Left, along with hypocrisy, authoritarianism and a pathological inability to understand simple economics.

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Huge

*Applause*

And don't forget dishonesty as we have seen with the student loans business, which I hope comes back to haunt them.

Additionally, yesterday there was supposed to be a Parliamentary debate about abuse of candidates during the recent election. The time available for this was talked out by Labour (i.e., they filibustered) so the debate never happened. They obviously wanted to protect their Momentum and Socialist "Worker" mates who would be responsible for the bulk of it.

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Tim Streater

Its a bit late as they're all moving to acid and stuff like drain cleaner in London nowadays. Just throwing it in peopales faces. Getting caught with a knife in a stop and search - or a knife suddenly dropping to the ground and its bang to rights and an immediate custodial.

At present there are no regs regarding the sale of acids or other potenially noxious stuff such as bleach to yoofs

Acid can be carried around in lemonade bottles. Although carrying it in anything other than the original container is an offence you need to catch them first

michael adams

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michael adams

How wrong you are - but nothing new there. I'm against half hearted legislation that I don't think will work. 'The something must be seen to being done' type.

Crikey. Have we got a left government at the moment? You've just described the current one perfectly. But you head in the sand Tories can't even see that.

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Dave Plowman (News)

Very good - you two make a good pair.

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Dave Plowman (News)

I think more or less anyone can have a debit card

Reply to
Andy Burns

Very likely. But in case it's escaped your notice, they've been out of office for a very long time.

What is it about you right wingers that makes you continually want to excuse a failing administration? And never actually discuss the point in question?

But a typical Brexiteer. 'Let's just give it a try and hope it works'

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Dave Plowman (News)

Its even more simple. Daves viewpoint is funadmentalist, just as a Christian fundmaentalist believes that the only truth in the world is in the One Book, so Dave believes that the only truth in the world is dipsensed via his Marxist perspective.

Any glaring inconsistencies are simply errors of interpretation.

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The Natural Philosopher

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