Where can I find the above? I'm after the type that you can flood the
tip by pressing it in and they will write on anything. I seem to recall
that Pentel used to make them, but I've drawn a blank so far
P.S. I don't want the paint type
I hope I haven't offended against usenet in the way I changed the title,
but what I've benn meaning to mention here for ages.
Does anyone remember indelible pencils?
When I were nobbut a lad, just after t'war, I remember these pencils that
you licked, and they wrote in something like ink.
They also wrote if you didn't liick them.
They've disappeared, so I can't find out WTH they were *for*.
Were you supposed to lick them, or was the wetting effect an unfortunate
side effect, or couldn't we get proper pencils with lots of leads inside
which don't load when the old one is used?
Or were they meant to be used as pens? But fountain pens *had* been
Anyone old enough to put me out of my misery, I lose sleep over this.
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 19:16:25 +0000 (UTC), mike ring
Just about. Frequently a dark violet colour.
Laundry markers. You can still get them, but they're rare.
A similar thing is a Chinagraph pencil, which is still pretty common.
They're very similar to use (they need a lick before they'll write
straight off on a low-friction surface). Not indelible though.
On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 22:20:54 +0000 (GMT), Dave Plowman
Depends on the scale you're working at. If you restore fountain pen
nibs, polyester / mylar tape is a useful abrasive.
If you're plotting on a map with a chinagraph (so it's removable) you
lick the point - otherwise your mark doesn't start quite where you
expected it to.
I gave up on the chinagraph for this purpose and started using thin tipped
permanent markers. Provided your charts are laminated, it comes off with a
bit of white spirit. The permanance is an advantage if you accidentally rub
the chart with your arm in the cockpit and would otherwise wipe your route
No, not like chinagraph, the laundry markers sounds right, though we
were'nt posh enough to send t'laundry out.
I also STR that they poked down the spines of diaries or notebooks, and I
wonder if the Ernest the Policeman licking his pencil when some feller me
lamb had to have his name and address took had anything to do with it.
Please no remarks about Dennis the Dachshund licking his pencil from lewd
fellows of the baser sort. :-)
I find that the silver and gold pens made by Pentel are very useful for
permanently marking plastic items. I think that the ink uses Xylene as a
solvent. They have a push-nib valve but, unfortunately, I have only been
able to find those two colours. They are available in a couple of widths
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