# Inaccurate clamp meter?

I got hold of a second hand one of these: https://www.torontosurplus.com/rs-components-heme-100-clamp-meter-611-414-clampmeter.html A HEME 100 clamp meter. I can't find specs for it online, only a HEME 1010. I've tried reading a few currents with it (using a brand new battery in it), and it seems to underread a fair bit on DC (0.56A instead of 0.62A) and AC (7.5A instead of 8.5A). It's also susceptible to wires near it - for example if you put the live inside the clamp but the neutral is an inch or so from the outside of the clamp, it reads a bit of that too and gives a higher reading. Are these things supposed to be accurate? Can I adjust it?
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On 11/05/2019 14:33, Commander Kinsey wrote:

How are you measuring the reference currents of 0.62A and 8.5A?
Using the specification of the HEME 1010
You are on the 400Amp range with a resolution of 0.1A The accuracy is +/-5 digits (+/- 0.5 Amps) plus 1.3% of reading (0.1A) so the reading is 6A +/-0.6A
If you are using a multimeter as the comparison it may be equally inaccurate, especially if the internal battery is failing. Often a failing battery in a multimeter gives high readings.
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The 0.62A was with a decent multimeter connected in the circuit.
The 8.5A was measured both with one of those energy efficiency meters on my house's meter tail, and by knowing what devices were running.

It's a HEME 100, not 1010.

There is no range selectable, it's automatic?

That's a hell of an error margin, but still way less than what I'm getting.
Also, taking the same reading in the same circuit repeatedly is giving widely varying readings, between 50% too low and 10% too low. I've thrown it in the bin.

I know the multimeter is accurate, I've tested it on all sorts of things.
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On 11/05/2019 19:54, Commander Kinsey wrote:

The only way you will know that your multimeter is accurate is by having it calibrated against a known standard, ideally specified to 10x better than your meter.
At 0.65A a high end Fluke multimeter @ £200+ will give 0.65A +/- 0.01A on a typical £50 multimeter £50 it will give 0.65A +/-0.09A
Without a specification for what you have purchased, you may have meter capable of measuring fairly accurately currents in the range 100A to 1000A but not capable of 0 to 10A measurements with any degree of accuracy
Typically you may be trying to measure and compare a 0.65A current with measuring equipment with a total uncertainty of measurement of around 0.6A
> The 8.5A was measured both with one of those energy efficiency meters > on my house's meter tail, and by knowing what devices were running.
So your comparison standard is something British Gas used to give away for free, possible so inaccurate that it hasn't got a published specification for its current measuring capability.
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"and by knowing what devices were running"
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On 11/05/2019 23:12, Commander Kinsey wrote:

Plonk
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Awww was my reply too difficult for you?
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Commander Kinsey wrote:

Fuck off Hucker.
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I don't see any useful information from you.... do you even know what a clamp meter is?
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Commander Kinsey wrote:

I used them 24 years ago with no problems. Now, just fuck off, man with a degree who can't even use a clamp meter or get a job. Just, fuck off Hucker.
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I can use one that works correctly.
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probably a clap meter......
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bona
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If you are measuring volts then ac is best on a calibrated scope of course, but I've seen some very strange results from clamp meters in the past, and after all there are a lot of variables going on all at once. Brian
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The damn thing was inaccurate on plain resistive loads on DC and AC. It's been binned.

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"If you get the right reading every time it must be a Fluke."
I have a Clamp Leaker 140. Are they any good?
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On 12/05/2019 07:49, Brian Gaff wrote:

I didn't know you could measure volts with the clamp part of a clamp meter.
If it is of the newer (as in less than 25 years old) hall effect sensor devices then it will be more susceptable to stray magnetic fields. There should be a calibrate/zero button on it somewhere which you should use just before you clamp on to cancel all these effects out before measurement.
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You can't.

If you clamp both active and neutral they will cancel out and you will get no reading.
I have a Clamp Leaker 140. http://www.multimic.com/assets/e/catalog/e_ca_m140.pdf
http://www.multimic.com/assets/e/instruction_manual/e-ma-m140.pdf
Any idea how old?
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On 14/05/2019 13:31, Lucifer wrote:

The EMC BS EN 61326 standard was first released about 2006 so less than 13 years old.
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