If you thought Straner was bad....

Jun 22, 2026 Last reply: 3 weeks ago 67 Replies

Remember democracy is not about the people getting their way, its about the ability to sack an executive, that is both impossible to do without, yet deeply flawed by its very nature. And always susceptible to corruption.

The EU manges by not allowing itself ever to be sacked. So does Putin. And Xi wossisname. Trump is trying to do the same but will die before he succeeds.

Tories failed us. We sacked em, Labour failed us,. We will sack them EU failed us. We sacked them.

We will keep sacking them until some government hits upon enough right things to do once in power that we give them a second chance.

or (both radical and horrfying) sticks to their own manifesto ?

Manifestos once used to be sacred, so much so that the Opposition did not vote against their implementation. It was unthinkable for the government to *choose* not to implement a manifesto promise.

That ended with that nice Mr Blair.

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Yes, but not four years, a bit less so the vote date moves through the year.

And as suggested before, two votes per person, one positive, one negative, and you can use both or neither. No need to change ballot paper format, just use eg X and 0 for +1 and -1.

That is asking the impossible. Events happen. Policies change. We want a government that reacts honestly and competently to them

I see it as replacing an incompetent with an irresponsible. Heads I lose, Tails I also lose.

Only those who make a net contribution to the exchequer should be allowed to vote. Those on benefits, such as pensions should automatically forfeit the right to vote.

It says much about our electorate who associate the Alternative Vote system with PR.

You do realise they are very different? The referendum was for AV that is still FPTP in all but name. It was shamefully sold short by the LibDems.

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One MP for one constituency either way. It is not PR where the elected officials are independent of any constituency.

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