This is an odd one and I don't have any good answers.
I am looking for idiot proof backup software preferably free that will
run on ancient 32 bit Vista. Initial configuration is fine but once set
up and installed it needs to do a full backup (or incremental one if
possible) on a more or less obvious single button click.
Ordinarily I would go for Paragon Backup & Revovery Free but there only
seems to be a download option for 64 bit versions these days :(
Any suggestions for something that would do. This has to be usable by
extreme technophobes who have a very limited understanding of computers
so I need to be able to configure it as a single button press to backup.
There is no scope for changing OS from Vista or any of their prehistoric
software. Until I got involved it was never backed up (scary)!
(cross posted to demon.service since a few wizards still hang out there)
I use an xcopy batch file, triggered each day by "Create Synchronicity"
has the advantage that you can mirror, zip or increntally update your
backups exactly as you wish via a windows batch file. Will work across
all Window platforms.
I use Backup maker version 7 on my XP system and there has been no hint
of it not wanting to work with my OS. I don't know if it will play
nicely with vista but worth a try.
I set it to do incremental back ups each night and a full one every
three days and the back up server itself delete files more than a few
weeks old and empties the bin.
This page https://www.lifewire.com/free-backup-software-tools-2617964
says that it will work with Vista.
I wonder if it will work with a screenreader. I have a similar issue here
but also just tto complicate things a couple of 64 bit windows 7 machines,
one on a remote site with less than computer literate users.
This newsgroup posting comes to you directly from...
[On return from a couple of weeks away] Strongly agree (except that it's
Bvckup, not Bvckyp. The URL is correct.). It is totally trustworthy,
faultless, and - which is crucial - it is easy to restore one or more
files from the backup.
Nature loves variety. Unfortunately, society hates it. (Milton Diamond Ph.D.)
Whatever backup program you go for, IMHO it needs to make an exact
file-for-file, folder-for-folder copy of the C: folders onto the backup
drive. That way you can easily navigate a folder structure on the backup
which is an exact replica of the one on the C drive, as you locate any file
which you need to copy back to the C drive if the C copy has got trashed.
I use MS SyncToy for my backups because it makes file/folder copies. This is
in contrast to many backup programs which add everything to one big
proprietary-format backup file on the backup drive, which requires the
corresponding program to be used to extract a file that has to be restored.
If that backup file gets corrupted in any way, you may have lost all your
backup, whereas corruption of a few files on the backup leaves everything
It's the same reason why I prefer Windows Mail (Vista) or Windows Live Mail
(Win 7, 8, 10) to MS Outlook, because WM and WLM use a separate file for
each email whereas Outlook mushes everything into a single PST file; firstly
the whole file has to be backed up every time, secondly corruption may
result in loss of all emails.
SyncToy requires a little bit of configuring to begin with (defining each of
the folder-pairs to be backed up) and then it is a two click operation (one
click to start program, another to say "Run", because it remembers that last
time you did "All Folders" and defaults to the same this time. If you want
the added security of seeing what it is about to delete or overwrite on the
backup, it's an extra click on Preview, followed by Run, as before.
I forgot to mention another significant constraint.
They are on a dreadful slow ADSL intermittent internet connection any
kind of online backup is out of the question. Downloading software of
any size is unreliable on site I have to download it at home and their
upload speed is risible.
My solution for them is colour coded 64GB memory sticks for a
grandfather, father, son backup regime which I think they can follow.
That's a very fair point. The whole world assumes we all have fast
unlimited internet and pushes us to do more and more online.
When I "escaped" from Demon and got a very fast FTTC connection it
allowed me to completely change my approach to backup and all sort of
I still have local backup as well, using an oldish NAS with 2 discs
configured RAID something so they mirror and give me 2x 1Tb. Complete
image backup manually from time to time, data files from specified
folders hourly automatically. All set up in Windows but maybe Vista
won't do it natively (I dodged the joys of Vista).
Assuming they have a router, would an always on NAS plugged in to router
ethernet port give you the hardware answer?
Not a bad idea. You could call the backup jobs "red stick", "blue
stick", "yellow stick"
The things to remember about backup are:
1. if it becomes a nuisance or more than a trivial chore, it just won't
2. backup is only half the story. No backup is a backup until the
ability to restore data has been proven.
(='.'=) "Between two evils, I always pick
Hence my question some posts back: is it just data you're worrying
about, or the ability to restore a hosed system (hosed either through
hardware failure [disc drive being the commonest I think], or - as seems
more likely here - user action)? Though it seems from subsequent
discussion, though the OP hasn't actually said, that either it's only
data, or that that's the best he's going to get from those involved
(making a Macrium image or similar being beyond them).
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
No sense being pessimistic. It wouldn't work anyway.
Mainly the data. TBH I think the whole machine is on it's last legs
which is why I have already imaged all the valuable data I could see.
But I'll be happier once I have imaged the whole disk once to grab
everything. I failed last time because downloading software there was so
hopelessly unreliable due to poor internet service.
I can't imagine finding a modern machine that the disk image could be
restored onto or being able to find Vista video drivers for new
hardware. They will be forced kicking and screaming to upgrade to Win10
when it expires. BTW Thanks to everyone for their suggestions.
It has clarified a few points and made me think a lot harder about
exactly what they need, some solutions I hadn't considered and how to
make it easy for it to get done reliably. That may be the hardest part.
Wish me luck I am off there today!
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