Hi guys. i painted my window sills with sandtex masonry paint on my window sills. Now it has flaked and just peeled off. Why is this? I did paint over gloss, but should this have affected it?
Thought i'd go for the good stuff, but looks like i wasted my money.
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Lobster
Doesn't matter how good the stuff is, you still need to have a decent substrate, and gloss paintwork isn't it.
Presumably the cills are actually masonry ones?
I had a very similar problem myself recently - although I sanded down the old gloss paint to key the surface, it didn't prevent the new masonry paint flaking straight off. So I scraped and scrubbed it alll off and started again; next time I painted over the old gloss with an external grade, oil-based undercoat paint first. Then painted that with the masonry paint later - seemed to work fine.
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Guy King
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Yes, of course it affected it! It's intended to be painted onto masonry, not gloss paint.
Masonry is textured and absorbant and rough and dimply. Even my glosswork is smoother than that.
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Chris Bacon
It's probably because the sills are made of concrete (or stone) and are damp to some slight extent. The moisture in the material will blister the paint as it tries to escape. You might do better to strip the sills entirely, and re-do with a "breathable" paint (Sandtex ultra smooth, for instance).
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lavenders19
ok guys, seens like i need to remove the gloss paint first. How do i go about this... will nitromors paint stripper do?
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Chris Bacon
You could use that, or a blowlamp and a steel scraper.
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Lobster
If it's onto masonry, it's likely to be very hard to shift via any means (surface being textured/porous) which is why I went for the method I did.
David
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The Natural Philosopher
Another good trick is to use a watershield type coating before painting.
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The Natural Philosopher
Yup. Pretty much., And a wire brush, and a pressure washer if you can beg/borrow/steal/buy one.
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lavenders19
I think my best bet will be to 1)use a wite brush to remove as much of the flaking paint as possible.
2) Paint the sill with "external grade, oil-based undercoat paint"
3) Repaint with masonry paint
Only one question. Where do i get this "external grade, oil-based undercoat paint" from and does it have a more common name. Isn't exterior gloss external grade, oil based paint. How would it being undercoat, rather than topcoat affect it?
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Peter Johnson
Try a trade decorator centre, Crown (owners of Sandtex) or Dulux perhaps. (You could also ring the tech advice line - the number's on your Sandtex can.)
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Stuart Noble
It's just standard "undercoat" i.e. not "quick drying". Available in all the sheds. Often the instruction to wash brushes in white spirit is all that indicates it's oil based. If the sills are going to be white, I wouldn't bother with masonry paint
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