Basically, what laber means is that instead of 15% of yoir income going
to support unemployable people, now 45% is going to spport unemployable
people in the only successful state run system there is. The civil service and
the machinery of opression^H^H^H^H^H^H^ government
The civil service and its bureacracy. Of course they don't DO anything,
but they feel much better...make workjobs for the boys and keep voting
There is always plenty of money about. It can be printed and hived off
in government bonds indefinitely.
Money is not teh issue ultimately. Its the provision of goods and
services beynd a countries means to generate them that is the issue.
Traditionally you do this by importation, running up a debt to some
other country, and then adjust your currency to rip off the other
country and devalue the debt.
This may no longer be possible.
Speaking as someone who has had fairly recent experience (18 months
ago) of Gordon Browns New Deal, I can say with absolute certainty that
it is a sham to keep the unemployment figures low. We know politicians
like to lie and cheat, but they have excelled themselves with
Over 50? Not eligible - you get the dole but aren't considered to be
unemployed. Claiming for more than 26 weeks? You lose your automatic
entitlement for the dole and are required to go onto means tested
benefit - if you pass the means-tested then you will still be counted
as unemployed (but that's much easier said than done!).
If the job centre offer you some back-to-work type training (even one
days worth) you are required to accept it, otherwise it terminates
your entitlement. And if you do accept the training then (from what I
recall) it removes you from the jobless figures because of some reason
I can't recall.
I was queued up waiting my turn at the bi-weekly grilling session and
got talking to an older chap next to me, and he filled me in on some
of the above. He was 55 and had been unemployed for quite a while. He
said he was no longer counted as unemployed for the above reasons.
I enquired what his trade was - turned out he was a hod carrier (he
apparently worked out in the gym 3 times a week and he certainly
looked fit enough!). And the training he was offered? Computer
operator. Go figure.
It's a good job that I don't have a convenient pile of house bricks in
my living room. I lose my cool very rapidly when yet another smarmy
git comes on and claims low unemployment. Like low inflation - don't
measure the things that real people have to pay for, just measure
those things that hardly ever change anyway.
Replying to the email address given by my news reader
will result in your own email address being instantly
added to my anti-spam database! If you really want to
contact me try changing the prefix in the given email
address to my newsgroup posting name.....
I have some sympathy with your comments, but dislike being referred to as a
"smarmy git" by someone who has no knowledge of me other than a post to
someone else. Such comments tend to render your other remarks as probably
not worth replying to. However I will do you the credit of assuming that the
last bit was said in frustration.
As it happens I have had three members of my family unemployed in the last
three years. Most recently my wife who is over 50. Incidentally she found a
job within two months of being made redundant. In spite of that individual
success, I am aware of the inadequacies of the current system. Your
assumption of lies by the government means that any pronouncement by them,
true or false will be rejected. However, there is a simpler measure of
unemployment (or at least wealth) which can be adopted by anyone. As I
implied in my earlier post, the number of cars on the road is a good
indicator of wealth. I can remember driving around in the 1980s with much
less traffic on the roads than currently. Stories of individual hardship (or
incompetence) are not helpful - because they are not necessarily typical.
Yup, because by holding interest rates down its easy to borrow ten times
your annual salary. However its a precarious thing. Maggie used norh sea
oil to fnd a consumer boom, Gordon brown is using consumer credit. Both
are finite resources. Bust is on teh way. Its just a matter of time, as
north sea oil and credit are BOTH running out...
She never. She used it to pay the unemployed when her harebrained economic
schemes naturally collapsed. Tony Benn described as reckless. One of the
greatest legacies gifted to this country, that should have been used to
create wealth was squandered.
For the past 6 years the right wing has predicted bust, they have been
preying for it. It hasn't come.
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