electric versus petrol

I'd class it as local if it was just the (same as the grower's) farmer's yard. But not if it's some kind of processing/packing plant 15-20 miles way.

In message snipped-for-privacy@perry.uk, Roland Perry snipped-for-privacy@perry.co.uk> writes

I think this is up to date:-

Since when was tyre age part of the MOT though ?

That's something that's hard to answer. The EVs that are ~10 years old now are first generation vehicles with first generation flaws. It varies a lot between manufacturers based on their designs (Nissan has awful longevity, Tesla is pretty good). If you buy a new EV today you're getting one with 10 years more improvement in battery longevity.

While there are swaps for Leaf batteries, I would expect that any EV you buy new today won't suffer sufficient degradation to make it a problem.

That said, I wouldn't buy an EV without any excess range for the journeys you need to do. If your EV has some range left over then you can handle some loss of capacity.

The alternative is simply to sell your EV on as a fully functional but lower range vehicle. Maybe that will suit somebody who only wants it for shopping trips rather than motorway runs. There is no reason to scrap it when it still works for some people. You may take a hit in value, but at that age the vehicle is fully depreciated and only being sold on condition anyway.

Theo

There have been suggestions of adding it, but even without, aged tyres begin to split eventually and fail MOTs that way.

From experience, a tyre allowed to stand flat, exposed to the sun, fails much more quickly than those kept in a garage or kept pumped up.

In message snipped-for-privacy@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk>, at 18:52:47 on Sun, 17 Oct 2021, Tim Lamb snipped-for-privacy@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> remarked:

Thanks. So no limit on the distance you can travel as long as it's to a market or processing plant, but if over 15 miles you might need an HGV licence.

A rather naive use of the term "your farm" when so many nowadays are sprawling co-operatives.

Use of red diesel limited to vehicles operated by one's own staff, not third-party hauliers. I could see some issues with that if drivers are self-employed (I don't know how common that is).

For private cars, not yet, though if deterioration is apparent, it could fail.

A different story however:

"It is illegal for the front (steering) axle or axles of:

goods vehicles with a gross mass more than 3.5 tonnes buses coaches minibuses and also to the rear axle, or axles, unless equipped with twin wheels

to use tyres aged more than 10-years."

Chris

In message snipped-for-privacy@perry.uk, Roland Perry snipped-for-privacy@perry.co.uk> writes

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Also, much arable farming is done by contractors so certainly little

As a beneficiary of *agricultural support* but also a taxpayer I have slightly confused views. In one form or another, this has been going on since WW2: benefiting the public with slightly cheaper food and keeping marginal land in production. Changes are ahead thanks to Brexit.... subsidised tree planting instead of crops!

and we can all eat trees?

In message snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com, at 09:32:36 on Mon, 18 Oct 2021, Chris J Dixon snipped-for-privacy@cdixon.me.uk> remarked:

Is that aged 10yrs since manufacture, or 10yrs since being first fitted?

since manufacture, or re-treading.

The original Leaf's had no battery cooling systems. Even Toyota hybrids have this feature.

In the '80s I had a motorbike with tyres that had split side walls - plenty of canvas visible. It always passed the MOT, possibly because I explained that the front tyre ran at about 10psi and the rear tyre at about 7psi. I had a flat rear tyre for a while before I noticed it - didn't affect the handling much up to around 35mph. Security bolts and lube in the tube and tyre sved internal wear. Had to use degreaser to clean the tube for a patch.