Copper & Plastic plumbing - freely mixing and matching?

[Andy Hall]

If you read the *complete* quote which you selectively edited then the position is quite clear.

You have focussed only on the throw-away line. They are not saying that they recommend or even that it's a good idea to use a "variety of tools" - it's simply an observation that the inventive could do it.

In the rest of the quote, and in the instructions on the web site (and indeed on the web sites of all other manufacturers), one is specifically told not to use a hack saw.

So the reality is that you didn't read the instructions, used a hacksaw (which you are told not to do) and, screwed up. You didn't even display inventiveness in coming up with an alternative.

To say that your position is untenable would be understating the situation considerably. Government ministers have resigned for less.

[IMM]

< snip tripe .

Hepworth say..

"The inventive can find many ways of achieving a perfectly acceptable clean, square cut using a variety of tools."

The above clearly says that a specialist pipe cutter tool need not be used. Can you understand that? Nah don't reply, you can't.

[Andy Hall]

You're right - it isn't worth it. One can generally reason with children and those where the elevator doesn't go to the top floor, but this would be a special case even for the saintly.

To quote the psychiatrist in Fawlty Towers:

"There's enough material here for an entire conference,"

[IMM]

Good. You are learning at last.

[raden]

In message , IMM writes

No democracy only works when there's a real difference between the options

[raden]

In message , Andy Hall writes

Fat chance of that he'd have to learn to spell and get his grammar correct, unless he snipped all the words from every article

[raden]

In message , IMM writes

So just tell us what it says about using a hacksaw ...

[IMM]

Maxie, it says a secialist tool need not be used.

[IMM]

Maxie, how is Dim Lin?

[Andy Hall]

Did you mean *socialist* tool?

I think that you've come close to reality if so.....

[raden]

In message , IMM writes

What does it SPECIFICALLY say about hacksaws ?

[raden]

In message , IMM writes

I don't keep track of your family

[IMM]

Now Maxie. I know you want to hide the existence of Dim Lin the luscious far eastern lovely; the Oriental enchantress.

[IMM]

[IMM]

writes

If you say so.

[Christian McArdle]

Indeed. It is probably intended to mean that careful and skilled use of a Stanley knife, or tin snips might get a good result, they having specifically excluded hacksaws previously.

Christian.

[Christian McArdle]

There's only one tool in this thread.

Christian.

[IMM]

Cutting the pipe is err, er, er cutting the pipe. It is how you finish it that matters.

[IMM]

And that isn't a specialist pipe cutter.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Absolutely. Cut roughly to length with a hacksaw then make the accurate cut with the correct tool. A win win situation as you would say. You've justified the use of a hacksaw.

Since you've obviously never worked with plastic pipe, buy some and the cutter. Do a proper cut. Then try and replicate that cut using hacksaw, sharp knife, file, sandpaper etc. Or even your nailfile and dressmaking scissors, since you seem to prefer anything but the correct tools.

You could even try a Rotozip since you seem to think it the answer to everything. Perhaps that's why they went out of business?

Yet again, the one person on the group who claims to be a pro and all others amateurs wants to avoid buying the appropriate tool for the job.

Which is the true sign of a penny pinching amateur. And worse, bodger.