Conflict between gas supplier and Gas Safe engineer - what to do?

I'm signed up, First couple of "we've a cheaper deal" were more expensive than what I was paying at that time. The en-mass specially negociated deal like wise. Don't bother checking now. The other snag is you have to manually keep it up to date with your current tarrif. Note singular, you can't, AFAIK, have more than one tariff per login.

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Dave Liquorice
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That's the definition of socialism.

Reply to
bert

Didn't know you were a US citizen and a Trump supporter, bert?

Perhaps the main part left of socialism in the UK is the NHS. The notion that health care shouldn't depend on how much you can pay. Obviously not something the likes of you want. Until you need it, of course.

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Dave Plowman (News

In article snipped-for-privacy@davenoise.co.uk>, "Dave Plowman (News)" snipped-for-privacy@davenoise.co.uk> writes

If the NHS is so great how is it that not one other country has copied it, yet some health care systems seem to be so much better.

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bert

You sound as if you would be upset if it had?

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Best not let facts get in the way of ignorance.

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Fredxx

?Seem? being the operative word. America has a perinatal mortality rate nearly three times ours. Providing healthcare is complicated and expensive. Not surprising that in many countries profit comes first.

Of course the NHS isn?t perfect. Years of government dismantling and underfunding in order to justify privatisation has seen to that.

Tim

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Tim+

Well try these numbers...

I was with EDF paying

Electric Standing Charge 24.50p per day - £89.43 / year Electric Unit Rate 21.19p per kWh (not sure what the night rate was - but our day use is 3x night use) Gas Standing Charge 27.35p per day - £99.83 / year Gas Unit Rate 3.43p per kWh

Current supplier (Avro):

Electric Standing Charge 14.70p per day - £53.66 / year Electric Unit Rate 12.84p per kWh (no discount for night time) Gas Standing Charge 14.70p per day - £53.66 / year Gas Unit Rate 2.28p per kWh

With usage of about 12000 kWh/year for electric, and 24500 kWh/year for gas

So edf was costing about £2300 for lekky (allowing for the cheaper night rate) and £840 for gas.

New lot: ~£1600 lekky, £640 for gas.

So saving ~£900

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John Rumm
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Yes, the size of the saving (versus any switching effort / risk) is directly proportion to the 'consumption' size of the bill in general.

Like, there are nearly no savings to be made on our land line because we rarely use it to make phone calls (and those we do make often go though 18185).

I was thinking of going over to a water meter. The two of us don't use much, generally shower rather than bath, don't wash vehicles or water plants or gardens, don't flush (or just split flush) every time etc.

One thing that I know does 'waste water' is waiting for the multipoint gas water heater to get hot water to the hand basin / sink, especially first / last thing for teeth cleaning and so that brought me back to two solutions to waste less.

1) Re-run the pipework from the MPWH in 15 rather than 22mm[1] to reduce the volume and hence speed of water to the basin but that's going to require a lot of effort. [2] 2) Add an instant hand washer heater at the hand basin (easier plumbing / electric supply). The problem with that will trying to determine how much more it might then cost for the (peak rate) electricity (compared with fixed / lower rate gas) over the saving in water?

Cheers, T i m

[1] The pipework was left over from a(n unused) stored HW cylinder system. [2] I can actually access the 22mm copper pipework at the remote end of a long run from near the MPWH to above the bathroom and considered the option of opening that up and sliding some 15mm plastic water pipe *inside* the 22mm copper to reduce the capacity and then converting to 15mm from there (mostly surface run piping in the utility area etc). Not a 'nice' engineering solution but it should work?
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T i m

Oh these people who do not read articles they quote. "There are differences from the UK model, which is the result of cultural and political climates and recent history. For example, Portugal has separate parallel insurance systems, Spain gives the autonomous regions a high level of responsibility for running services, and there are private hospitals alongside the public sector in Italy (as they are in Portugal and Spain)."

Similarities does not mean the same.

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bert

And that is different from the NHS - how?

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Dave Plowman (News

Absolutely, but the principles are very similar with every country putting in place their flavour of NHS.

If you're getting down to fine detail then I fully accept there are significant differences in implementation.

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Fredxx

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