Give us a clue what your problem is, and we may be able to help more
If you need a backup solution though, try OEQBFULL - at least that
way, if you completely fluck up your attept at recovery, you stand
some chance of getting your email back !
OK. Finally sorted SWMBOs PC problem by using a Belkin wired router. Her e
mail works fine (Vista/Windows Mail Live).
A random number of e mails sent to me (XP Home/OE6) appear in her Windows
Mail inbox, but not in my inbox. No pattern to it that I can see.
Two probs, I'm missing e mail that could be work related & SWMBO is getting
fed up with unwanted e mails!
Dave - The Medway Handyman
Hmm ok, does your web host provide any email facilities, such as
redirection / multiple accounts ?
It might be worth setting a couple up, that way she can get hers, and
you get yours via "independant" accounts.
I'm sure that there *is* a pattern to it. I guess that you're sharing a
single email account which allows multiple addresses - e.g.
email@example.comISP.com and firstname.lastname@example.orgISP.com If so, the basic
email address will be handyman.yourISP.com - and mail sent to
anything_you email@example.comISP.com will all end up in the same mailbox
on your ISP's server. When you download it to your PCs, which PC it ends up
on (if either) will firstly depend on exactly how the email accounts are set
up in OE6 (or any other email client which you use - it makes no difference)
and secondly on which PC is the first to do a mail collection after a
particular email has been posted. By default, as soon as an email as been
downloaded to a PC, it is deleted off the server - so it appears on the
first PC but not the second. There is, however, an option to leave a copy on
the server if you tick the appropriate box in the OE account setup
dialogue - then both PCs can download the same message - but you need *some*
way of deleting them, otherwise they keep getting repeatedly dowloaded!.
Send me a private email if you want some more specific advice. [The address
in the header *does* work - but I only look at it about once a month - so
you *must* indicate here that you've sent me a PM].
Yes we are. firstname.lastname@example.org and email@example.com
Having said that, my address is actually 'abcd12345' and SWMBO's os
Makes sense - sort of :-)
OK, so the problem seems to be how the accounts are set up. The 'which PC
is first' would account for the random nature.
Aha! Perfect sense!
OK, makes sense to me. How do I set up the 'leave a copy on the server'
thing? SWMBO only uses Live Mail, not Mail so as long as we both got the
e-mail it wouldn't be a problem - I could just go into her Mail & delete as
Thanks ever so Roger. How would I set up the 'leave a copy on the server'
Dave - The Medway Handyman
If you are still struggling after the advice provided here, try
Whilst as in any newsgroup there are shall we say less than helpful folk, it
is a font of wisdom on these sorts of problems.
There are also dedicated OE6 NGs.
Click "mail" tab
Click entry for your email account and then click "Properties"
Click "Advanced" tab
Tick "Leave copy of message on server" checkbox
Tick "Remove from server after" checkbox
Enter a couple of days in the numeric field.
OK your way out of all the dialogs.
If you use this setting on one PC, and on the other don't bother setting
the remove option - let one machine do all the deleting.
(if you do this in Thunderbird it is smart enough to not download the
same messages more than once... not tried it in OE ;-)
OE is the same
Also if you don't want to download her mail onto your PC and the reverse!
Tools-> Accounts> Mail> 'mail account' > General then uncheck 'Include
this account when sending or receiving' you can stilll do this manually if
required from the send/receive tab
We do exactly the same, swmbo usually reads her mail from the web but
sometimes needs to save or print something out. and having 2 similar OE
setups on different PC's can do exactly what you are describing
IIRC you use (in VM ex-Blueyonder speak) one mailbox with 3 aliases in
use, and SWMBOBY uses another mailbox with 1 alias in use. If so:
a. can you confirm it is definitely mail to your mailbox which is
ending up on her PC? and if so
b. if you have deliberately set up her PC with that mailbox, why
since there seems no need (unless eg you want to download mail to both
machines for backup purposes) ?
I would start by double (triple?) checking that her PC is set up with
only the one mailbox and that not yours.
If there are no other and better folk around who are used to
mailbox/alias system I'd be happy to waffle further on them here or by
mail etc: firstname.lastname@example.org
I hope you are fully sorted after the advice from John et al on
how to set up the 2 PCs to leave copies on server etc. If so, the
question *why* mail was going to the wrong PC doesn't need to be
answered. But FWIW
o if you have ever given out addresses in terms of
abcd12345 or abcd12345_1 that might just possibly have led to people
the wrong one (if only by mistake). I think it is safer only to give
out the alias (such as davidlan.........). That also has the benefit
you can change the alias if the spam becomes intolerable.
o if you want to get to the bottom of what was going on you could
post the details of
an email which went to your PC and of one which went to the other PC.
(You can copy the details from OE6 by right clicking on the message,
then selecting properties. Then in the pop-up select the "details" tab,
select all the text and copy it as usual.)
On 2008-03-28 20:47:49 +0000, "The Medway Handyman"
- Sharing single POP accounts and trying to control who gets what by
use of selective downloads on different machines is not a reliable
- It isn't a reliable solution if used on one or more than one machine.
- Relying on selective download of messages with some pulled and others
left behind on the server is not reliable.
- Having a POP account each and restricting access by machine can work
reasonably - i.e. user 1 on machine A accesses their person POP account
and user 2 on machine B accesses theirs. As soon as User 1 tries to
access user 1's account on machine B, there is a risk of mail ending up
in the wrong places.
- Having an IMAP account each at the ISP is the way to go. In this
scenario, mail folders per user are maintained on the ISP's server.
The user accesses with their email client in a similar way as they do
for POP (at least as far as everyday use is concerned) and either
headers only are downloaded followed by a download and cache for a
message as the user opens it, or all messages are downloaded and cached
locally. The crucial difference to POP is that a copy is left on the
server until explictly deleted by the user. Their locally cached copy
is effectively synchronised wih the server copy. This has the
additional advantage that now User 1 can have a log in account on
machine A and on machine B and User 2 likewise. Each user can access
their mail from either machine and the set of mail messages and folders
will remain unique to them without cross overs and messages ending up
in the wrong places. It will also handle the case of User 1 logs into
machine A and deletes some messages from their account. When they
then log into machine B, te messages will disappear from there as well.
IMAP accounts each is the correct way to solve your problem. Even OE6
supports it, although other clients do it better. If you continue to
use POP you will always be pissing around for one non obvious reason or
If I ubnderstand your problem you just need to set up a couple of message
rules (Tools/Message Rules/ Mail). Oh her PC set one rule saying if the
'To' field contains David don't download it from the server and tick "stop
processing more rules". On your PCs set the rule to if the 'To' field
contains Geraldine don't download it from the server, and tick "stop
processing more rules".
Apply everything and that should sort it. Sorry if this doesn't make sense
to you but Iknow what I am trying to say, have a look in the message rules
option and play around by send test emails to and from both machines till
you get it right.
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