You didn't say you were going to make them install and administer Linux, I think that is a good idea. They really should know how to do so. You could even get them to "fix" the problems in the software so it does work with the stuff the school provides.
Oh, you aren't going to get them to install and administer Linux then, that's a shame, a holistic experience would benefit them. Especially if they decide to buy/build a machine in a couple of years.
I am under no obligation to support every format people fancy either.
Especially when the cost to them is effectively zero because they can choose to send out supported formats.
Or in your world, it would be OK for them to decide AutoCAD was good software to use then expect everyone to buy a copy?
As for web pages, there really is no excuse. It is not my job to compensate for someone else's ineptitude.
And for every time some says that, I can think of a person who did get crapped on - including, 3 or so months ago someone who picked up a virus that was unknown to a fully maintained and uptodate Symantec scanner on their PC.
And it is a lot harder in a real OS to click on a web link and pick up a trojan that promptly roots your system and goes zombie.
Well, I suppose at least my we server logs are no longer full of Nimbda and CodeRed "attacks" from hordes of infected Windows boxen so something must be improving...
Nope, spot on.
Tell you what - I won't make you use the crap I like and you stop expecting me to use your crap... Because I like my crap as it has caused me far less wasted hours than yours.
I suspect they use what they know, which is why I happy to make a fuss and prove there are alternatives.
Besides, why are they wasting money on commercial software when budgets are tight? Everythign our primary school does could be done for free if someone in the LEA bothered to make an effort.
They'll get to do that at the time when they are able. All I said was if they want Windows, they can manage it themselves. Which will be in some number of years I expect.
Until then, if I have to do the work, it will be my way, which means linux.
You have a tough time coping with people who have views different to you don't you?
Ah that's the rub isn't it.. just because linux is free doesn't mean zero cost.
The reason why most people use windows.. if you have a problem using windows you can ask lots how and you will get a workable answer. the same is not true for linux as there are so few users you won't find anyone to help, and if you do find someone they will be using different software and you will have to relearn it. Unless linux can actually get to 10-20% of users it will remain the same.
I expect Google's android will get there before linux.
I have no problem with that thanks. I do like to wind up people with irrational beliefs though.
Schools have IT people to sort out problems. They don't tend to have to go begging for help.
Neither is Windows "free" to support. It takes as much effort as linux. More so for your average home Joe. Stick and Ubuntu CD/USB in a machine and in less than an hour (ADSL assumed) you have a working machine with applications including the latest patches for *everything* with one post install reboot.
That is not true of Windows if we assume you want Office, Flash, various drivers etc.
That is only partly true. There is plenty of help available online, in one place for specifically Ubuntu and you generally get solid answers.
That is likely.
We require GCSE maths at C. But then we teach it over again, plus part of the A level, plus some other stuff (discrete maths). The only safe way.
You're not winding me up and my opinions are well rooted in experience of MS Windows. MS sucks - quite rational after all these years of uncountable exploits.
I accept every other OS has also had exploits (including MacOSX, Linux,
*BSD, VMS) but none of them on anything like the same scale.You have to ask - when you see a crashed out ATM or info screen somewhere - which OS screen is it displaying 90+% of the time? And, especially with ATMs, plenty of those don;t run windows for comparitive purposes.
My son has started that with BSD. I got him to build the machine first, then install it.
Most people aren't IT people, nor do they work at schools.
I didn't say it was.
Well no, you wouldn't do it that way in a school environment. You would network boot the machine and download the pre-configured image and have the machine up and working in about 10 minutes, for windows or any other OS you chose.
OK, so I put in my boot CD and get it to wipe windows and install ubuntu. Now how do I get online with my wireless router (warning this is a tricky question to answer).
If I can get a good price on a galaxy s2 I will be one of them, if I can't it will be a HD7 (windows).
It's always going to be a problem with the packed in store operation. ISTR hearing that Tesco (i think) are trialing a warehouse style operation.
As to Ocado compared to Waitrose direct. It also depends on your local store. Ours is fairly small, and so has a smaller range anyway compared to the big store in Cambridge. I think we probably get a better range overall via Ocado.
No, it's gone down from last month.
Scale is a problem, especially when nobody actually knows how many linux machines have been exploited. They don't report back to anywhere and no linux user will ever admit to having been exploited or the other linux users will jump on him immediately.
Nobody checks that their linux machine hasn't been compromised even after major problems have been in the field for several months.
There are even cases where the fix has stopped the exploit being used again but doesn't have any effect on machines that have been compromised.
At least with windows the majority do check occasionally and if updates are on M$ checks them for you.
I don't have to ask anything about ATMs, I haven't seen enough of them broken to make a statistically meaningful inference.
But BSD is more secure than linux so its easier. 8-)
Implied it. Both require some support, one has zero capital cost, which is cheaper?
Thank you - I have done this before you know...
And who do you think makes your nice pre-configured image?
BTW you can pull the same stunt with linux - but as the auto installer tools are freely supplied, you don't necessarily need to.
It is also a lot less aggravation to clone linux in a networked environment, or at least it was as there's none of this SID changng business (though I accept that may have changed).
And my example still stands for Joe Home User who has to do the initial stuff from scratch.
Just like Windows if your driver is not bundled - either copy in down on a USB stick or jack it in to the ethernet on the router long enough to pull the initial install.
Asus eeePad Transformer kicks ass - a few bugs, but it is early Honeycomb - nice and quick and generally as slick as my iPhone interface (which I assume is representative of an iPad).
It's a lot easier to pick up something nasty on Windows. That is not to say - as some do - that if you use Mac (or Linux) there is no risk at all.
Andy
The only colour screen ones (Barclays, NEC?( The standard machine in
2000, anyway) ), FWIW) I've seen showing a BSOD featured Windows XP Professional. It was easily reproduceable, too, with a number of them showing the BSOD on introducing my card on the same date.The green screen ones have never, IME, shown a reboot screen. Thank goodness, because I *really* needed the cash that day and I knew where the only green screen one within a dozen or so miles was. The following day, the Windoze XP ATM I had used previously worked perfectly with the same card that had crashed three XP machines the previous day. To say I was surprised that banks used XP on security critical applications would be understating it.
I told my son he ought to do A level maths - and he did. And he reckoned it helped on your courses.
Andy
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