clapping

[alan_m]

Why has the 8 o'clock clapping sessions now degraded into letting off fireworks in the street?

[ARW]

Run out of pots and pans or to many injured wrists?

[Adrian]

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Around here, tonight was the first time it didn't happen.

Adrian

[Chris Hogg]

Only clapped once. Quite painful - arthritis in my hands!

[Muddymike]

Boredom I guess. No one around us has ever joined the Thursday clap.

Mike

[Andy Burns]

It's like a swiss ski-slope with pots& pans instead of alpine cow bells round here, and a lone triangle that kept it up for 24 minutes last night.

[T i m]

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I thought I heard that triangle but it was just my Tinnitus from the pots and pans. ;-(

Cheers, T i m

[Brian Gaff (Sofa)]

Because the asians love letting off fireworks in the street. . That seems to be a tradition.

Brian

[Andrew]

So all those confused animals who turn up expecting food, are sent on their way.

[ARW]

I think our street managed three weeks.

I never took part in it even when I was not at work.

[Scott]

Friend of mine said she disapproved of clapping people who were just doing their jobs, not a very good job in some cases with GP surgeries closed.

[Pancho]

We have comparatively worse excess deaths too. A large part of this seems to be due to the NHS sending infected old people from hospitals back to care homes.

Something is very sick with the NHS, operationally, structurally (not just under funding), but instead of fixing it, politicians treat it like a religion.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Can you blame the NHS for this, or were they instructed to by HMG?

Those of us who have used it in normal times are very glad we don't have a system like the US has.

[Dave Plowman (News)]

Those of us isolating found it a good time to wave at the neighbours. And see/hope they are all still well.

[Max Demian]

...and dentists, and opticians.

I'm glad I don't need any medical attention at the moment. They're talking about virtual consultations as part of some "new normal". Last week's Click had a woman asked to /buy/ equipment to enable this, apart from the video call aspects. There was a pulse oximeter, stethoscope, thermometer thing she put near (but not on) her forehead, blood pressure monitor, light to check ears, nose and throat. Not what I would regard as a consultation.

[ARW]

I feel lucky in that work has been non stop and so very little has altered for me in many respects.

I have had two phone calls from neighbours that were worried about me due to seeing the van parked up when it should not be and when it was not parked up when it should have been.

[T i m]

Quite. I think it's one of those things that in many cases carries on and (generally) does well 'in spite' of those in charge of it.

The majority of NHS staff are 'workers' and are under public supervision most the time.

Given the levels of 'cr*p' I've seen them take, from both a minority of the public and some of their managers I'm surprised there are any still working.

I clapped (a couple of times) for all of them, the NHS workers but also those driving trucks ... when they had no access to cafes and toilets ... shop workers who had to sit at a till for several hours a day and put themselves in harms way (*any* customer could give them CV if they weren't careful / lucky) or anyone who provides essential services to others whilst also putting themselves at some increased risk.

I believe several tube workers / bus drivers have died of CV, just 'doing their job', when they could have just stayed at home (even if they had to do so unpaid).

We have tried to do our bit by staying at home and allowing daughter to do all our shopping and doing so less frequently than we otherwise might. Neither have we taken up food delivery slots.

The Mrs clapped every time (her sister was an SRN and both she and her daughter worked in care homes for some time), I didn't because I was often keeping an eye on my 3D printer whilst it made visor frames for the care workers (done and delivered 50 so far). ;-)

Cheers, T i m

[Dave Plowman (News)]

True. I'm retired so not as big a difference to my lifestyle. I'd have hated it if while still working. Since my industry was pretty well stopped. And being free lance, the worry about income. Although could have survived 3 months without work. Made sure of that due to the uncertainty of freelance work.

It's one thing good out of this. People looking out for others more than usual. Had neighbours I was on little more than nodding terms offering help with shopping, etc. With my local close friends, set up a Whatsapp group so we could ask for things to be bought when shopping etc our own store may have been out of. And countless jokes.

[T i m]

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I feel most sorry for those who may now / indirectly lose their lives because they weren't able to get the / their medical needs seen to.

I developed a thing under a heel and after seeing a specialist was set to have it removed a couple of weeks later, then the lockdown came in. Typical for me that the first time in 63 years I actually need surgical intervention. However, given it didn't seem to get worse (even those it appeared quite quickly itfp), two months later I got a phone call asking if I would like to go in the next day (which I did and seemed to have the hospital to myself). Luckily the result of the biopsy was good and I didn't seem to come out with any more problems than I went in with either. The hope was that the hospital might actually be cleaner than it may have been prior CV?

Or doing more home visits. My mum tore the skin on her leg and a nurse came out from her surgery to check / dress it.

We already have most of that and maybe more should also, just to cover the basics?

Every time I've been to any medical consultation (drop-in-centre / podiatrist / doctor most recently) they all just looked up the symptoms on Google / medical database. ;-)

Cheers, T i m

[alan_m]

Do doctors take medical advice from Boris?

While I too have had good (medical) service from the NHS over the years I have witnessed over the years many inefficiencies and in some cases the right hand having no knowledge about what the left hand is doing.

I do find it strange that before the lock-down the NHS were complaining that too many people were attending GP surgeries A and E unnecessarily. Now during the lock-down fewer people resorting to the medical profession, especially at A and E, seems to also be a cause of concern.