cladding tests

cladding tests to begin tomorrow, not just from grenfell, but for council towers across the country
<http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/19/councils-ordered-send-high-rise-cladding-urgent-fire-tests-glenfell
So looks like it could turn on the alteration from this zinc FR composite in the initial 2012 planning application
<http://www.vmzinc.com/facade/vmz-composite.html <https://www.rbkc.gov.uk/idoxWAM/doc/Other-960662.pdf?extension=.pdf&id0662&location=VOLUME2&contentType=application/pdf&pageCount=1>
to the aluminium composite (which doesn't actually specify FR or PE) by the 2015 approved materials list, even though it's still only a planning doc, not a regs doc.
<https://www.rbkc.gov.uk/idoxWAM/doc/Other-1421792.pdf?extension=.pdf&id21792&location=VOLUME2&contentType=application/pdf&pageCount=1>
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Camden apparently started stripping cladding from 4 buildings today, with 24x7 on-site fire watch until it's completed.
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Andrew Gabriel wrote:

Yes, not too shabby a response ...
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On 22/06/2017 18:10, Andy Burns wrote:

Please don't be misled by sloppy headlines from sub-editors. They've not actually started removing the panels yet (apart from the ones removed for testing). The official line is "will immediately begin preparing to remove..."
Please also note that organs such as The Guardian may state it is similar to the cladding at Grenfell but they don't specify in what ways similar let alone in what ways different. Camden's official statement points out that (a) "they have fire-resistant rock wool insulation designed to prevent the spread of fire and fire resistant sealant between floors" and (b) they reckon they didn't get what they specified.
http://news.camden.gov.uk/camden-set-to-remove-cladding-from-chalcots-estate-tower-blocks/
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Robin wrote:

I assumed as much, but putting the wardens in place (presumably giving dozens of council pens a rest from being pushed for a few weeks).
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On 22/06/2017 18:34, Robin wrote:

I'll bet they are only testing the ones they can remove easily from the lower floors. The type on other floors may be different.
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One photo seen today or yesterday was from a scaffold tower very near the ground, the other was of persons abseiling down and removing cladding maybe 10 floors up.
Grenfell also seemed to have a transition point on one facade below which burning ceased to happen as if there was a change in material, or the installation method, or a lack of chimney effect.
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On Fri, 23 Jun 2017 12:30:31 +0100, The Other Mike wrote:

Or wind direction.
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Andrew Gabriel wrote:

Burnham Tower (ironic name!) seems to have the riveted version, rather than the cassette version ...
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On 22/06/2017 18:02, Andrew Gabriel wrote:

There is a real danger of copy-cat fires being started intentionally.
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On 22/06/17 23:05, Andrew wrote:

National burn an immigrant week?
Well it will go well with the hard left's 'summer of hate'.
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The Natural Philosopher wrote:

There was someone on the radio suggesting council tenants might believe they'd all get new £1.5m flats by burning their tower down, seemed a bit far fetched ...

1 million people for the 'day of rage' seemed to be 300 people in practice.
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On Friday, 23 June 2017 08:45:49 UTC+1, Andy Burns wrote:


bit

Not to some of the thickos that live in them.
Although if the towers are fully insured for complete rebuilding the prospe ct might appeal to a few councils too.
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On 23/06/17 08:45, Andy Burns wrote:

I think even less.
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perhaps we should have a day of being mildly annoyed then .....
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On 23/06/17 09:12, Jim GM4DHJ ... wrote:

Day of abject depression that a year after independenve day, we seem further away than ever and the remoaning is still going on
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On Fri, 23 Jun 2017 09:19:53 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

The Lievers said (before the vote) that if it was 52/48 against them, they wouldn't accept it.
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On 23/06/2017 09:19, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

That would be because the majority don't want the hard brexit you want.
If you are really depressed why not get treatment while there are still immigrants to treat you?
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Be very interesting to actually know what the majority do want that is achievable.

Thought Turnip was emigrating?
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On Fri, 23 Jun 2017 09:12:05 +0100, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."

Or a day of apathy, the success of which would be judged by the number of people who don't turn up.
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