cladding tests

cladding tests to begin tomorrow, not just from grenfell, but for council towers across the country

So looks like it could turn on the alteration from this zinc FR composite in the initial 2012 planning application

to the aluminium composite (which doesn't actually specify FR or PE) by the 2015 approved materials list, even though it's still only a planning doc, not a regs doc.

Reply to
Andy Burns
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Camden apparently started stripping cladding from 4 buildings today, with 24x7 on-site fire watch until it's completed.

Reply to
Andrew Gabriel

Yes, not too shabby a response ...

Reply to
Andy Burns

Burnham Tower (ironic name!) seems to have the riveted version, rather than the cassette version ...

Reply to
Andy Burns

Please don't be misled by sloppy headlines from sub-editors. They've not actually started removing the panels yet (apart from the ones removed for testing). The official line is "will immediately begin preparing to remove..."

Please also note that organs such as The Guardian may state it is similar to the cladding at Grenfell but they don't specify in what ways similar let alone in what ways different. Camden's official statement points out that (a) "they have fire-resistant rock wool insulation designed to prevent the spread of fire and fire resistant sealant between floors" and (b) they reckon they didn't get what they specified.

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Reply to
Robin

I assumed as much, but putting the wardens in place (presumably giving dozens of council pens a rest from being pushed for a few weeks).

Reply to
Andy Burns

I'll bet they are only testing the ones they can remove easily from the lower floors. The type on other floors may be different.

Reply to
alan_m

There is a real danger of copy-cat fires being started intentionally.

Reply to
Andrew

National burn an immigrant week?

Well it will go well with the hard left's 'summer of hate'.

Reply to
The Natural Philosopher

There was someone on the radio suggesting council tenants might believe they'd all get new £1.5m flats by burning their tower down, seemed a bit far fetched ...

1 million people for the 'day of rage' seemed to be 300 people in practice.
Reply to
Andy Burns

Not to some of the thickos that live in them.

Although if the towers are fully insured for complete rebuilding the prospe ct might appeal to a few councils too.

Owain

Reply to
spuorgelgoog

I think even less.

Reply to
The Natural Philosopher

perhaps we should have a day of being mildly annoyed then .....

Reply to
Jim GM4DHJ ...

Day of abject depression that a year after independenve day, we seem further away than ever and the remoaning is still going on

Reply to
The Natural Philosopher

Or a day of apathy, the success of which would be judged by the number of people who don't turn up.

Reply to
Chris Hogg

The Lievers said (before the vote) that if it was 52/48 against them, they wouldn't accept it.

Reply to
Bob Eager

One photo seen today or yesterday was from a scaffold tower very near the ground, the other was of persons abseiling down and removing cladding maybe 10 floors up.

Grenfell also seemed to have a transition point on one facade below which burning ceased to happen as if there was a change in material, or the installation method, or a lack of chimney effect.

Reply to
The Other Mike

The bloody idiots like harry that voted leave to get rid of the immigrants, and that now assume the rest of those that voted leave think the same, that are the problem.

You can blame the left as much as you like but the rest of us know who it is to blame.

Reply to
dennis

That would be because the majority don't want the hard brexit you want.

If you are really depressed why not get treatment while there are still immigrants to treat you?

Reply to
dennis

Be very interesting to actually know what the majority do want that is achievable.

Thought Turnip was emigrating?

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Dave Plowman (News)

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