chimney breast removal

Hi recently i have moved into a semi detached house with alot o

potential and i am enquiry about a chimney breast removal on the botto floor upto the ceiling,the previous owners have made a cupboard into th chimney breast already and so all i want to do is take away the rest o the downstairs chimney breast,as they have taken some bricks away t put put the cupboard in i noticed the rest of the breast above th cupboard is supported with wooden supports,so my enquiry is, is it eas to take out the rest upto the ceiling and what permissions do i need an i would think it would have to be a steel lintel support above and no wood.I would appreciate any advice from anybody that would know

-- spearatune

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spearatune
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No one can really tell you this one.

best would be to get a builder in for a quote and talk it through with him.

If you decide to do it yourself, you can follow what he said needed doing. Too much weight is involved for pratting about.

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EricP

"spearatune" wrote | Hi recently i have moved into a semi detached house with alot of | potential

Oh dear :-)

You'll be staying here for a while then I take it?

| and i am enquiry about a chimney breast removal on the | bottom floor upto the ceiling,the previous owners have made a | cupboard into the chimney breast already and so all i want to do | is take away the rest of the downstairs chimney breast,as they | have taken some bricks away to put put the cupboard in i noticed | the rest of the breast above the cupboard is supported with wooden | supports,so my enquiry is, is it easy to take out the rest up to | the ceiling and what permissions do i need and i would think it | would have to be a steel lintel support above and not | wood.I would appreciate any advice from anybody that would know.

The removal of the chimney brickwork by the previous owners should probably have been the subject of a Building Regulations application. (If on a party wall, Party Wall Act provisions may also apply.) If you tell your solicitor about the alterations she/he can specifically chase up whether this application was ever approved by the council.

The chimney structure has to be properly supported for the first floor and above, whether or not this was done when the ground floor brickwork was taken out, using beams p[roperly integrated with the building structure. The structural steelwork etc required for this should be designed by a Structural Engineer[1] who has professional indemnity insurance and can sign off the calculations to the satisfaction of Building Control. If the breast is in a party wall then Party Wall Act provisions will prbably apply.

When you appoint a builder you should make it a condition of the contract that the work is carried out to the satisfaction of your StructE and have the StructE inspect the work before paying the builder. You really need the StructE before the builder, because the StructE can prepare working dwgs and specs against which you can invite builders to quote.

If it's a front-facing room you might want to arrange all access to the works to be via the room window and an access tower, and access to the attic through the ceiling of this room (you will probably need a new ceiling anyway) rather than having builders traipsing through the rest of the house.

Removing the chimney breast without supporting the stack above is probably the most common cause of "I did some DIY and the house fell down" stories, and builders cannot be relied upon to do the job properly on their own initiative.

Once the steelwork is in, removing the brickwork below is diyable.

Owain

[1] Listed under 'Structural Engineer' in Yellow Pages, conveniently next to Steel. There is a "find a structural engineer" link from the professional website,
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but as engineers have to pay to be listed on that, it's far from a complete listing.
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