I would like to fit a chandelier type fitting however when I removed
the ceiling rose I noticed that the earth wire was missing – as the
chandelier thing is made of metal I would imagine that its imperative
that I fit one or find it!
Any advice here would be most gratefully received!
Hi Sam, the ceiling rose you removed, what wires were there actually present,
ie is the rose on a loop in loop out system or is it fed from a junction box.
It might pay to remove a few more roses to try and establish how your lighting
circuit is wired. What is the general state of the rest of the wiring, CU for
example, is it a modern one with MCBs or a rewirable fuse type,
Also are you sure there isnt a cpc poked up in the ceiling void ?
Well, if the fitting must be earthed and you've no earth in the lighting
wiring, the answer is pretty obvious. All lighting wiring has been
required to provide an earth for many years, so if yours doesn't it needs
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If your light needs an earth and your supply has no earth, then you
need an earth. Or to not install the chandelier.
As Dave pointed out there is a 2nd consideration too: if the lighting
circuit has no earth it is probably very old, probably 1960s or
earlier, which raises the question of what condition its in after all
this time, and how safe it is.
But for a start the OP didn't say the fitting must be earthed, he said
it was made of metal so *imagined* it must be earthed (and indeed, no
doubt it should be). And maybe he didn't know lighting cables should
now always have an earth, but that many years ago they didn't, so he
could have very out-dated wiring in need of replacement. Or maybe he
has got modern wiring, but some numpty who wired in a non-earthed
bayonet fitting years ago just cut the earth back beyond the ceiling
rose so it's invisible without probing further.
TBH I don't see that the solution is any more obvious than for other
queries which get asked here every day.
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